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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are about to be in the same situation
and here is what I found. These are just some preliminary findings.
I welcome any confirmation or comments from the group if something I said is
incorrect.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are CM 4.2.3 with CRS(IPCC) 4.0(5) for
our call center. We currently have Unity 4.2(1).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For us, the differences between Unity UM
and Exchange UM do not seem to justify the change at this time. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As you noted, it is not recommended for CM
4.x. If we change to CM 5.x or 6.x, this also means we have to change to
a newer version of CRS(IPCC) for our call center. We have only been on
the Cisco Voip platform for a year and those changes are not something we want
to take on at this time. Moving to Exchange UM means an upgrade of all of
the components in our cluster.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Moving to Exchange UM means no use for the
Unity box and the licenses that we just bought a year ago. I am not ready
to tell the execs that we are going to toss that capital expense in the trash.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Third party for the MWI as mentioned
below. Not aware of a free one so this is an extra cost and something
else to manage (ever how cheap it may be).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The UM part of Exchange 2007 appears to be
additional licensing cost above the licenses required for email
functionality. That means more money spent to replace something that
already works fine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>UM on Exchange moves the voicemail from
the telecom group to the Windows group. The Windows group really does not
like that idea. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Full use of Exchange 2007 UM means you
need to upgrade all clients to Outlook 2007. This means additional cost
for licenses on the client side.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We are still planning to move to Exchange
2007, but we are going to keep the Unity UM and upgrade to Unity 5.x for
integration with Ex2007. Our Unity upgrade is covered by our Cisco
support and I will just have to purchase some additional licenses for new users
above my current quantity. In the grand scheme of everything we have
going on right now, this is the most efficient use of resources and time for
us.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hope some of this helps you with your
decision either way. Good luck.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Micah
Bennett</span></font></b><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Telecommunications Admin</span></font><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
</span></font><b><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:maroon;font-weight:bold'>Automated License
Systems</span></font></b><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
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</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Mayte Cantillo<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:20
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] Exchange
2007 UM and CUCM</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Good morning,</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>We have been asked to look into
Microsoft’s Exchange Server 2007 Unified Messaging for our
environment. We have two clusters, one with CUCM 4.2.3 and the other one
CUCM 6.1.2</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Has any of you tried to do this? I
see from Microsoft’s own website that with 4.2.3 it is not recommended
because it does not do MWI. Should we even consider it? What other
features will we lose?</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Any insight is appreciated.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Calibri><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:navy'>Thanks!</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:21.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>-Mayte.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Bradley Hand ITC"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:navy'>"To
repeat what others have said, requires education; to challenge it, requires
brains" </span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face="Bradley Hand ITC"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Bradley Hand ITC";color:navy'>Mary
Pettibone Poole, A Glass Eye at a Keyhole, 1938</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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