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<div>The UK dialplan is fairly well documented on that site... you can download it from there if you dont have it already..</div>
<div>I see what you mean though.. I had a slightly different interpretation..</div>
<div>I was thinking that it would actually be more like a public IP address.. i.e. assigned to a Corporation, and under their management...</div>
<div>So I still think its going to be managed by Ofcom and assigned for certain purposes..</div>
<div>Again I think you can check allocations on the Ofcom site as well possibly..</div>
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<div>We need an RFC1918 for E164 hey? :)</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/15/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ryan O'Connell</b> <<a href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com">Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Why E.164 ? Size and scope dictate I need to go at least 10 digits, with UCM 7 they support E.164. Also E.164 is standards based so all the other components that will be sharing this dialplan such as OCS, Tandberg, Mitel, and Nortel should get along.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">SRND – Yes I have reviewed UCM versions 5 through 7 of the SRND</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Corporate numbering – Thanks for that URL very interesting but somewhat misleading. If you note in section S.3 it states that <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">"Corporate numbering is a new type of service dedicated primarily to businesses with private telecoms networks. The corporate numbering range would allow businesses to have their own identifiable part of the Scheme to meet their telecoms needs and allow greater flexibility in the use of the numbers. It could also ease the integration of businesses' public and private numbering schemes" </span></b>which leads me to believe we can use these numbers just as we would using <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://10.0.0.0/" target="_blank">10.0.0.0</a> subneting but as you read further through the document it becomes less clear. </span></font><font face="Wingdings" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</span></font><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithsonianwa@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithsonianwa@gmail.com</a>] <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Tim Smith<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:05 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Ryan O'Connell<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b> Justin Steinberg; <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>; Matt Slaga (US)
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<p><span><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On 7/14/08, <b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Ryan O'Connell</span></b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com" target="_blank">Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span> </p>
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<p><font face="Arial" color="navy" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Yes agreed and understood, in fact the plan is based on UC version 7. So back to my questions though, with E.164 NANP and E.164 with UK does anyone know if there are private numbers reserved? As far as I can see any Area code that repeats itself has not been assigned to any NANP number as of yet except for 888. They have been set aside as ERC (Easily Recognizable Codes) numbers. This being said it doesn't clearly define if these numbers will ever be introduced as NANP numbers. So based on this using 444 XXX XXXX in NANP we should be safe. As for the UK it seems as though they set aside a block for "Corporate Numbering" 05x xxxx xxxx.</span></font></p>
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<p><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Justin Steinberg [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsteinberg@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 14, 2008 7:45 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Ryan O'Connell<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b> Matt Slaga (US); <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I agree with Matt. so many changes in UC7, I would hold off making any significant dialplan changes until that release.</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Ryan O'Connell <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com" target="_blank">Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That's what I'm saying is that I shouldn't need the "+" if the number is a fully qualified E.164 number.<br><br>Thoughts?</span></font></p>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" target="_blank">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:33 AM<br>To: Ryan O'Connell; <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] E.164 dialing<br>
<br>Unfortunately, you are going to have to wait for UCM 7.0 to have full<br>E164 support. Currently UCM throws up when it gets a '+'.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>
[mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] On Behalf Of Ryan O'Connell<br>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:54 PM<br>
To: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>Subject: [cisco-voip] E.164 dialing<br><br><br><br>Hello,<br><br>I am working on a Dialplan that is based on E.164 numbers. Essentially<br>
all internal DN's will be the fully qualified E.164 number without the<br>"+" so for NANP that will be 11 digits and in Europe it will consist of<br>country-code followed by local exchange. Using partitions and CSS's to<br>
maintain interal 4 digit dialing intra-site and full E.164 inter-site.<br>For DID's the above plan is pretty straight forward but for non-DID's I<br>can't seem to find any ranges within the NANP that are designated as<br>
private addresses. So if I want to assign 100 DN's to be voicemail ports<br>or lobby phones or whatever I was wondering what I should make these<br>numbers so that it doesn't overlap with any PSTN numbers.<br><br>
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