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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Tim <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Why E.164 ? Size and scope dictate I need
to go at least 10 digits, with UCM 7 they support E.164. Also E.164 is
standards based so all the other components that will be sharing this dialplan
such as OCS, Tandberg, Mitel, and Nortel should get along.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>SRND – Yes I have reviewed UCM versions
5 through 7 of the SRND<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Corporate numbering – Thanks for
that URL very interesting but somewhat misleading. If you note in section S.3
it states that <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>“Corporate numbering is
a new type of service dedicated primarily to businesses with private telecoms
networks. The corporate numbering range would allow businesses to have their
own identifiable part of the Scheme to meet their telecoms needs and allow
greater flexibility in the use of the numbers. It could also ease the
integration of businesses’ public and private numbering schemes” </span></b>which
leads me to believe we can use these numbers just as we would using 10.0.0.0
subneting but as you read further through the document it becomes less clear. </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
smithsonianwa@gmail.com [mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tim Smith<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 15, 2008 2:05
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ryan
O'Connell</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Justin Steinberg;
cisco-voip@puck-nether.net; Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] E.164
dialing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Ryan...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>"Corporate Numbering" is not a private numbering space.. I
believe it is some sort of service, like personal numbering..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/publications/numbering/2003/05nums0303.htm.#3">http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/oftel/publications/numbering/2003/05nums0303.htm.#3</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Have you taken a look at the CUCM SRND? It has some good stuff on dial
plans with site codes etc..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Why make everything E164...?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tim<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 7/14/08, <st1:PersonName w:st="on"><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>Ryan O'Connell</span></b></st1:PersonName> <<a
href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com">Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>> wrote:</span></font></span>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Yes agreed and understood, in fact the plan is based on UC
version 7. So back to my questions though, with E.164 NANP and E.164 with <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> does anyone
know if there are private numbers reserved? As far as I can see any Area code
that repeats itself has not been assigned to any NANP number as of yet except
for 888. They have been set aside as ERC (Easily Recognizable Codes) numbers.
This being said it doesn't clearly define if these numbers will ever be introduced
as NANP numbers. So based on this using 444 XXX XXXX in NANP we should be safe.
As for the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
it seems as though they set aside a block for "Corporate Numbering"
05x xxxx xxxx.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Thoughts?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Ryan</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Justin Steinberg [mailto:<a
href="mailto:jsteinberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsteinberg@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 14, 2008 7:45
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ryan
O'Connell</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Matt Slaga (US); <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] E.164
dialing</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I agree with Matt. so many changes in UC7, I
would hold off making any significant dialplan changes until that release.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon,
Jul 14, 2008 at 9:39 AM, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ryan O'Connell</st1:PersonName>
<<a href="mailto:Roconnell@unislumin.com" target="_blank">Roconnell@unislumin.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>That's
what I'm saying is that I shouldn't need the "+" if the number is a
fully qualified E.164 number.<br>
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Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Matt Slaga (US) [mailto:<a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com"
target="_blank">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 6:33 AM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ryan O'Connell</st1:PersonName>; <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] E.164 dialing<br>
<br>
Unfortunately, you are going to have to wait for UCM 7.0 to have full<br>
E164 support. Currently UCM throws up when it gets a '+'.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
On Behalf Of <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ryan O'Connell</st1:PersonName><br>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 3:54 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a><br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] E.164 dialing<br>
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<br>
Hello,<br>
<br>
I am working on a Dialplan that is based on E.164 numbers. Essentially<br>
all internal DN's will be the fully qualified E.164 number without the<br>
"+" so for NANP that will be 11 digits and in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place>
it will consist of<br>
country-code followed by local exchange. Using partitions and CSS's to<br>
maintain interal 4 digit dialing intra-site and full E.164 inter-site.<br>
For DID's the above plan is pretty straight forward but for non-DID's I<br>
can't seem to find any ranges within the NANP that are designated as<br>
private addresses. So if I want to assign 100 DN's to be voicemail ports<br>
or lobby phones or whatever I was wondering what I should make these<br>
numbers so that it doesn't overlap with any PSTN numbers.<br>
<br>
If anyone can share thoughts or their experiences in this area that<br>
would be helpful thanks<br>
<br>
<br>
Ryno<br>
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