<div dir="ltr">That is definitely interesting... so it is definitely worth bench marking your own apps to guage the effect...<br><br>Is that ccm.exe on the subs in the cluster? So they were affected by an update on the pub?<br>
<br>Cheers,<br><br>Tim<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/15 Wes Sisk <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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it also depends on the type of updates you are making. here is an
example from a recent TAC case:<br>
<br>
While investigating ccm.exe cpu consumption issues watch out for this
SDL signal:<br>
<br>
000168681| 08/06/19 08:52:38.806| 001| SdlSig |
DbChangeDefaultsReq | initialized |
Db(1,100,29,1) | SSAPIManager(1,100,115,1) |
(1,100,115,1).3110-(*:*) | [T:DBP - HP: 0, NP: 0, LP: 0,
VLP: 0, LZP: 0 DBP: 0]<br>
<br>
On my lab 4.1(3) server I have an MRGL used by 2 phones, 1 gateway, and
1 device pool. Updating that MRGL (note, just update, not reset)
spikes ccm.exe CPU to over 60%.<br>
<br>
Generally avoid updates to MRGL during the day. This is similar to
CSCee14224, but that is only for voice mail profiles.<br>
<br>
/Wes <br>
<br>
Mordechai wrote:
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<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We have the
7845 dedicated publisher with
lots of RAM, ver <a href="http://5.1.3." target="_blank">5.1.3.</a> I expect around 800 writes for each change
window. Not
a big deal but I was hoping to get the sense of the upper limit just in
case I
have to schedule more elaborate updates in the future. </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">As far as
the change window this is a
large bank and the change process is very strict. Nothing gets touched
w/o a
plan and a change record. It's a pain but I totally justify the
approach.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Mord</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"> </span></font></p>
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<div style="text-align: center;" align="center"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">
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<p><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
<a href="mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithsonianwa@gmail.com</a> [<a href="mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Tim Smith<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July
15, 2008 11:35
AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mordechai<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[cisco-voip] axl
update requests limit</span></font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">You really have to test this against what you
have...</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">i.e. Newest 7845 with max memory..?,
dedicated publisher, what version
of CCM, are you doing lots of writes?</span></font></p>
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<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If you have a dedicated pub, an AXL app cant
really impact your call
processing.</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">In 4.x I have found AXL much less intrusive
than BAT so far.. </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">BAT still pegs both CPU's for adding 50
phones.. :)</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">I like the change window concept though, max
it out and do bulk
ops overnight...</span></font></p>
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<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Cheers,</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Tim</span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><br>
<br>
</span></font></p>
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<p><span><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On
7/15/08, <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Mordechai</span></b>
<<a href="mailto:m.rabinovich@nves.ca" target="_blank">m.rabinovich@nves.ca</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span>
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<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hello,</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I
think there were some discussions around what is a safe limit for
update
queries but I don't remember seeing an official Cisco upper limit.</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I
am thinking of going with 50 per minute for normal daily operations and
100 for
rollouts during change windows. </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Thoughts?</span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Mord</span></font></p>
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<p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p><font size="2" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">No virus
found in this outgoing message.<br>
Checked by AVG.<br>
Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.11/1553 - Release Date:
7/15/2008 5:48
AM</span></font></p>
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