<div>Yep.. but they will announce an effective end of support where they wont replace it any more...</div>
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<div>And did you get a replacement next business day? :)</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Tim<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/18/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jonathan Charles</b> <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">I bought a 3550 for the house in 2003, it blew up six months ago...<br>Cisco replaced it, no smartnet, just warranty... dunno if they have<br>
lifetime on the 4/6xxx's<br><br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br>On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:09 AM, Tim Smith <<a href="mailto:thsglobal@gmail.com">thsglobal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Has the warranty changed recently? It used to be Limited Lifetime warranty -<br>
> usually 10 days before they ship a replacement (For the access switches)<br>> And I think they were giving you 90 days on a anything above a 4500?<br>><br>> Sure you can buy smartnet... but its not cheap.<br>
><br>> Dont get me wrong.. I love Cisco stuff, and if it was up to me, I wouldnt<br>> have worked on anything else... but some places just dont have the cash. For<br>> a cheap alternative someone like HP Procurve is a good option. Sure they<br>
> dont have as many features as Cisco... but they usually have the most<br>> important ones that you actually turn on and need :)<br>><br>> They had true lifetime warranty on the access switches.. lifetime of the<br>
> product (until it physically disappears or disintegrates) and they normally<br>> ship parts next business day. I had a really old ethertwist hub at home.. it<br>> failed.. i logged it.. they replaced it with a new model switch. (I will say<br>
> I did want the ethertwist switch fixed.. it was a classic.. but cant fault<br>> their service there)<br>><br>> And the price was very reasonable from the start. They also have reasonably<br>> priced management software that wasnt too shabby either.<br>
><br>> And I believe they are also running on the international space station now..<br>> so that should be a fairly good reference site :)<br>><br>> Next interesting thing would be the LLDP-MED and Cisco Phones... if they<br>
> could autoconfigure.. it would be fairly sweet.<br>><br>> Like I said.. love the Cisco... but there is always room for some healthy<br>> competition I guess.<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Tim.<br>><br>
> On 7/17/08, Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Well, first off, all Cisco switches have a lifetime warranty... yes,<br>>> they are expensive... yes, there are bugs, but the bugs have a<br>
>> tendency to get fixed...<br>>><br>>> I have experience with Adtran, and after supporting the TA612 and 624<br>>> et al for a year or so, I can tell you, they should stick to CSUs and<br>>> buggy whips... maybe PSTN and WAN simulators...<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Jonathan<br>>><br>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> > Going to work?..... How many bugs have I personally found? I don't know<br>
>> > if<br>>> > I would go quite that far.<br>>> ><br>>> > Adtran is about 1/3 of the cost / no Smartnet contracts / Free Firmware<br>>> > updates / 5 year warrenty, soon to be lifetime and all there support<br>
>> > engineers are both certified on Cisco and Adtran.<br>>> ><br>>> > Thay do a lot of (so I'm told) interop with other venders (cisco).<br>>> ><br>>> > My main double take of it was for my school districts that are short on<br>
>> > $$$<br>>> > but still wanting to do VoIP.<br>>> ><br>>> > Scott<br>>> ><br>>> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> > wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> Also, let's add up what you get with Cisco.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Support.<br>>> >><br>>> >> More Support.<br>
>> >><br>>> >> Lots more Support.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Oh, yeah, and no questions about whether it is going to work or not.<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>
>> >> Jonathan<br>>> >><br>>> >> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Joe Cisco <<a href="mailto:smetsysocsic@gmail.com">smetsysocsic@gmail.com</a>><br>>> >> wrote:<br>>> >> > The only non-cisco switches i've ever seen successfully work with<br>
>> >> > Cisco phones were made by Enterasys. We have a client using<br>>> >> > exclusively Enterasys switches across their entire enterprise -<br>>> >> > access<br>>> >> > / core - everything. When properly configured they successfully<br>
>> >> > negotiate CDP with the phones and split the voice traffic into the<br>>> >> > voice vlan and PC/data traffic into the data vlan if a PC is plugged<br>>> >> > into the back of the phone.<br>
>> >> ><br>>> >> > They were about 1/2 the price of equivalent cisco gear. Having said<br>>> >> > that, i'd still personally pony up the extra cash for the cisco gear<br>>> >> > if it were up to me.<br>
>> >> ><br>>> >> > -Joe C.<br>>> >> ><br>>> >> ><br>>> >> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> > wrote:<br>>> >> >> Had a Adtran rep come by today and told us all about Adtran switches<br>>> >> >> /<br>>> >> >> routers / appliances / etc and the switches sound good, but I was<br>
>> >> >> wondering<br>>> >> >> if anyone on the list was using them in production with a Cisco CM /<br>>> >> >> network. All responses welcome.<br>>> >> >><br>
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