<div>Has the warranty changed recently? It used to be Limited Lifetime warranty - usually 10 days before they ship a replacement (For the access switches)</div>
<div>And I think they were giving you 90 days on a anything above a 4500?</div>
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<div>Sure you can buy smartnet... but its not cheap.<br><br>Dont get me wrong.. I love Cisco stuff, and if it was up to me, I wouldnt have worked on anything else... but some places just dont have the cash. For a cheap alternative someone like HP Procurve is a good option. Sure they dont have as many features as Cisco... but they usually have the most important ones that you actually turn on and need :)</div>
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<div>They had true lifetime warranty on the access switches.. lifetime of the product (until it physically disappears or disintegrates) and they normally ship parts next business day. I had a really old ethertwist hub at home.. it failed.. i logged it.. they replaced it with a new model switch. (I will say I did want the ethertwist switch fixed.. it was a classic.. but cant fault their service there)</div>
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<div>And the price was very reasonable from the start. They also have reasonably priced management software that wasnt too shabby either.</div>
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<div>And I believe they are also running on the international space station now.. so that should be a fairly good reference site :)</div>
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<div>Next interesting thing would be the LLDP-MED and Cisco Phones... if they could autoconfigure.. it would be fairly sweet.</div>
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<div>Like I said.. love the Cisco... but there is always room for some healthy competition I guess.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Tim.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/17/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jonathan Charles</b> <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Well, first off, all Cisco switches have a lifetime warranty... yes,<br>they are expensive... yes, there are bugs, but the bugs have a<br>
tendency to get fixed...<br><br>I have experience with Adtran, and after supporting the TA612 and 624<br>et al for a year or so, I can tell you, they should stick to CSUs and<br>buggy whips... maybe PSTN and WAN simulators...<br>
<br><br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br>On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Going to work?..... How many bugs have I personally found? I don't know if<br>
> I would go quite that far.<br>><br>> Adtran is about 1/3 of the cost / no Smartnet contracts / Free Firmware<br>> updates / 5 year warrenty, soon to be lifetime and all there support<br>> engineers are both certified on Cisco and Adtran.<br>
><br>> Thay do a lot of (so I'm told) interop with other venders (cisco).<br>><br>> My main double take of it was for my school districts that are short on $$$<br>> but still wanting to do VoIP.<br>><br>
> Scott<br>><br>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Charles <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Also, let's add up what you get with Cisco.<br>
>><br>>> Support.<br>>><br>>> More Support.<br>>><br>>> Lots more Support.<br>>><br>>> Oh, yeah, and no questions about whether it is going to work or not.<br>>><br>>><br>
>><br>>> Jonathan<br>>><br>>> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Joe Cisco <<a href="mailto:smetsysocsic@gmail.com">smetsysocsic@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> > The only non-cisco switches i've ever seen successfully work with<br>
>> > Cisco phones were made by Enterasys. We have a client using<br>>> > exclusively Enterasys switches across their entire enterprise - access<br>>> > / core - everything. When properly configured they successfully<br>
>> > negotiate CDP with the phones and split the voice traffic into the<br>>> > voice vlan and PC/data traffic into the data vlan if a PC is plugged<br>>> > into the back of the phone.<br>>> ><br>
>> > They were about 1/2 the price of equivalent cisco gear. Having said<br>>> > that, i'd still personally pony up the extra cash for the cisco gear<br>>> > if it were up to me.<br>>> ><br>
>> > -Joe C.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>>> > wrote:<br>>> >> Had a Adtran rep come by today and told us all about Adtran switches /<br>
>> >> routers / appliances / etc and the switches sound good, but I was<br>>> >> wondering<br>>> >> if anyone on the list was using them in production with a Cisco CM /<br>>> >> network. All responses welcome.<br>
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