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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes, EMC Smarts Performance Manager is just Prognosis (with the
same problems). I already tried the eval of CUOM and CUSM and wasn't happy
there either. If I have to spend weeks trying to learn and get a management
app running, it's not really worth it to me. I expect to tune it over time
but just the basics was a big undertaking, the install of CUOM was like 1 hr
and I needed a separate box for CUSM just to monitor CDR records. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My clients range in size so finding something easy to setup and
use is the top priority, I'm willing to forego heavy customization if I can
actually get back to my day job at some point. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think Clarus does some of the CUSM stuff too which is why I'm
looking into it now. I hopeful that nothing can be as bad as CUOM/CUSM to
configure and get to work but I'll keep you updated. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tom Sparks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Taos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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smithsonianwa@gmail.com [mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim
Smith<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:54 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tom Sparks<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] prognosis and callmamager 6.1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On other management products...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I used Cisco CUOM / CUSM a little bit at a customer site.. i
found it useful.. but the customer wasnt too interested in using it.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>It depends what you are after though.. CUOM does the fault
management stuff, CUSM does the voice quality and now there is a statistics
model as well...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>CUOM is pretty handy if you have CUCM clusters and IPCC
enterprise... it does give you a pretty good central view... at the time it
didnt really do anything for CVP though... hopefully this will change.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If your a partner I think you can download an eval... if not
you could probably get it off your integrator..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>RTMT would still be required to drill down...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone got any experience with EMC Smarts and their Voip
management plugins? I heard they were prognosis re-branded, but I'm not sure
this is true?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tim<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 7/24/08, <b>Tom Sparks</b> <<a
href="mailto:acydgod@gmail.com">acydgod@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>We're pretty turned off by Prognosis at this
point. I tried so many times<br>
to get it to work with 6.1 and finally reverted to RTMT. There are few other<br>
alternatives but you might want to checkout Clarus.<br>
<br>
Tom Sparks<br>
Taos<br>
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Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:23:13 -0400<br>
From: Wes Sisk <<a href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] prognosis and callmamager 6.1<br>
To: Eric Pedersen <<a href="mailto:eric.pedersen@sait.ca">eric.pedersen@sait.ca</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
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make sure to get latest patches for prognosis and CM. in several<br>
accounts prognosis has triggered<br>
CSCsb80753 AXL::ExecuteSQLQuery errors with many end users, tomcat<br>
OutOfMemoryError<br>
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/Wes<br>
<br>
Eric Pedersen wrote:<br>
><br>
> Is anyone using Prognosis to monitor a CM 6.x cluster? We are
looking<br>
> at implementing this, and I'm interested to know what other people's<br>
> experiences are.<br>
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