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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Two quick questions/suggestions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1) Did
you try applying CBWFQ on a per-PVC basis (looks like you did and it did not work).
That is, configuring a service-policy within a Frame Relay map-class, and then applying
the map-class to the VC: <a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk543/tk545/technologies_tech_note09186a008009489a.shtml"><font
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<pre><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2) Second possibility I can think of would be to try using qos pre-classify command on the virtual interfaces (this, however, may or may not help over the F/R cloud)</span></font><font
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Arial'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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Nikola Stojsin<br>
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<a href="mailto:Nikola@att.net"><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>Nikola@att.net</span></font></a><br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Djokic Sinisa<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:27
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'cisco voip'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] no QoS
solution in WAN with L2VPN over FR!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>hi group..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>according to TAC engineer who talked with colleague of mine
cisco doesn't have solution for next scenario..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>in my country TELCO offers L2VPN over frame-relay network as
well as over ethernet..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so, according to cisco we cannot offer QoS solution for
those customers who still use FR as access to L2VPN..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so the issue is in branch office WAN router..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the problem occurs since we need to create interface BVI on
every branch router and assign ip address to it instead of frame-relay serial
subinterface..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>this is a MUST, beacuse of frame-relay encapsulation on the
FR access, and central office understands only ethernet frames..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>this way we're bounding FR to eth..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so, we cannot apply LLQ or CBWFQ or GTS to interface BVI,
it's not supported..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>also, when we appy it to frame-relay subinterface ( which
has all the configuration like classic FR interface except the fact that
belongs to bridge-group and hasn't ip address ), it doesn't work..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>any thoughts how to overcome this..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>although i'm not shure it can be helped..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>thanx..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>regards..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
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