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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>hi group..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>according to TAC engineer who talked with colleague of mine
cisco doesn't have solution for next scenario..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>in my country TELCO offers L2VPN over frame-relay network as
well as over ethernet..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so, according to cisco we cannot offer QoS solution for
those customers who still use FR as access to L2VPN..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so the issue is in branch office WAN router..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the problem occurs since we need to create interface BVI on every
branch router and assign ip address to it instead of frame-relay serial
subinterface..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>this is a MUST, beacuse of frame-relay encapsulation on the
FR access, and central office understands only ethernet frames..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>this way we're bounding FR to eth..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so, we cannot apply LLQ or CBWFQ or GTS to interface BVI,
it's not supported..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>also, when we appy it to frame-relay subinterface ( which
has all the configuration like classic FR interface except the fact that
belongs to bridge-group and hasn't ip address ), it doesn't work..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>any thoughts how to overcome this..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>although i'm not shure it can be helped..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>thanx..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>regards..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Sinisa Djokic</span></font></b></strong><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>System Engineer</span></font><br>
<font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>CCNP,CCDA,CQS-CWLDS,CS-CIPTDS,CS-CIPCCES
Cisco Certified</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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