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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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CBFWQ, LLQ, FRTS, GTS, but nothing works in the scenario where IP address is on
BVI and ofcourse everything works when IP address is on PVC subinf<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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pre-clasify isn't supported on BVI interface - actually we just need to enable
QoS on the egress of branch office router and enable priority for voice for
example, what happens in FR cloud isn't important in this moment<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Nikola Stojsin
[mailto:nikola@worldnet.att.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:30
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Djokic Sinisa'; 'cisco voip'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [cisco-voip] no QoS
solution in WAN with L2VPN over FR!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Two quick questions/suggestions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1)
Did you try applying CBWFQ on a per-PVC basis (looks like you did and it did
not work). That is, configuring a service-policy within a Frame Relay
map-class, and then applying the map-class to the VC: <a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk543/tk545/technologies_tech_note09186a008009489a.shtml"><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk543/tk545/technologies_tech_note09186a008009489a.shtml</span></font></a>
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<pre><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2) Second possibility I can think of would be to try using qos pre-classify command on the virtual interfaces (this, however, may or may not help over the F/R cloud)</span></font><font
face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Arial'>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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Nikola Stojsin<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</st1:PersonName> [mailto:<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</st1:PersonName>] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Djokic Sinisa<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:27
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'cisco voip'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] no QoS
solution in WAN with L2VPN over FR!!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>according to TAC engineer who talked with colleague of mine
cisco doesn't have solution for next scenario..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>in my country TELCO offers L2VPN over frame-relay network as
well as over ethernet..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so, according to cisco we cannot offer QoS solution for
those customers who still use FR as access to L2VPN..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so the issue is in branch office WAN router..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>the problem occurs since we need to create interface BVI on
every branch router and assign ip address to it instead of frame-relay serial
subinterface..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>this is a MUST, beacuse of frame-relay encapsulation on the
FR access, and central office understands only ethernet frames..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>this way we're bounding FR to eth..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>so, we cannot apply LLQ or CBWFQ or GTS to interface BVI,
it's not supported..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>also, when we appy it to frame-relay subinterface ( which
has all the configuration like classic FR interface except the fact that
belongs to bridge-group and hasn't ip address ), it doesn't work..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>any thoughts how to overcome this..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>although i'm not shure it can be helped..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>CCNP,CCDA,CQS-CWLDS,CS-CIPTDS,CS-CIPCCES
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