<div dir="ltr">To be honest, all this being said, I would much rather deploy/manage Unity than UC...<br><br>First off, no real tools in UC to diagnose a problem (no call viewer, no port status monitor...) and it has that silly SFTP-only backup solution.<br>
<br>Also, it seems childish... this may be mystique, but when I see CUC on a site, I assume they were too cheap to buy Unity...<br><br>However, for VM-only it is a decent idea... doesn't make much sense to buy full-blown Unity, with Windows 2003, Exchange and SQL licensing, just to give voicemail to 100 users.<br>
<br>To be honest, I really don't deal with small customers that would think CUC would be a solution... the one time I did do a CUC install, the customer bought IMAP licenses (so it was the same price as Unity) and they complained constantly about how awful IMAP was...<br>
<br><br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Tim Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:thsglobal@gmail.com">thsglobal@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>No resilience in Unity Connection (currently) - heard rumours it should be there in version 7.</div>
<div>No networking in Unity Connection (again currently) - so it is stand alone.</div>
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<div>Unity can support Domino as a message store in both VM or UM - done this a couple of times, and I hate it.. just quietly :)</div>
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<div>Unity is more scalable.. as already mentioned.</div>
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<div>UC is voicemail in a box.. quick and easy to setup and manage.. no Microsoft skills required anymore..</div>
<div>Simple voice mail, and you are under the right number of users (and you can live with no resilience for now) - then UC is a good choice. The appliance model is great. It also has some of the advanced features that some of your users may require. I think someone already mentioned there is some cool integration with Exchange calendars and personal call routing rules.</div>
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<div>Unity is an "adventure" to setup and manage :) and will usually require Microsoft integration skills as well.. </div>
<div>Unity has lots of flexibility for deployment options to consider also..</div>
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<div>If you have a large complex deployment, sure you could end up with multiple UC servers. But more likely you would look at full Unity, and run failover pairs split across 2 x data centers..</div>
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<div>And of course if you want voicemail, email and faxes to all co-exist in 1 big mailbox for each user.. then you have no choice.. Unity all the way.</div>
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<div>If you do talk Unity to a customer, you need to discuss thoroughly the possible impact and integration with their existing network..</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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</font><div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/6/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">JASON BURWELL</b> <<a href="mailto:JASON.BURWELL@foundersfcu.com" target="_blank">JASON.BURWELL@foundersfcu.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: bold; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal;">E-Mail Integration Options</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: bold; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal;">Networking to Other Voicemail Systems</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: bold; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal;">Integration with Third-Party Call Processing</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: bold; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal;">Speech Recognition</p></td></tr>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Cisco Unity Express</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Up to 250</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Integrated</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes, with Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging products</p>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">No</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">No</p></td></tr>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Cisco Unity Connection</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Up to 7500</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Integrated</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes, with Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging products</p>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes, with most traditional and IP private branch exchanges (PBXs)</p>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes</p></td></tr>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Cisco Unity Unified Messaging</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">7500 per server, networked to 250,000</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Integrated and Unified Messaging (Microsoft Exchange, Lotus Notes, or Novell GroupWise)</p>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes, with Voice Profile for Internet Mail (VPIM), Audio Messaging Interchange Specification (AMIS), Cisco Unity Bridge, etc.</p>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes, with most traditional and IP PBXs</p></td>
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<p style="margin: 3pt; font-weight: normal; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0pt; font-style: normal; text-align: left; font-variant: normal; text-decoration: none;">Yes</p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></div>
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<div align="left"><span><font size="2" face="Arial">Found at this link <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/product_data_sheet0900aecd80410ad6_ps6509_Products_Data_Sheet.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/product_data_sheet0900aecd80410ad6_ps6509_Products_Data_Sheet.html</a></font></span></div>
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<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aman Chugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> cisco voip<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Difference between Unity Connection and Unity<br></font><br> </div><span>
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<div><br>I have always tried to understand what is the difference between Unity Connection and Unity and when to sell Unity and Unity Connection . Looking for differences in architecture of these applications and how they work with Exchange.</div>
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