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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:51 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Smith<br>
<b>Cc:</b> JASON BURWELL; Cisco VoIP<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Difference between Unity Connection and Unity<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>To be honest, all this being
said, I would much rather deploy/manage Unity than UC...<br>
<br>
First off, no real tools in UC to diagnose a problem (no call viewer, no port
status monitor...) and it has that silly SFTP-only backup solution.<br>
<br>
Also, it seems childish... this may be mystique, but when I see CUC on a site,
I assume they were too cheap to buy Unity...<br>
<br>
However, for VM-only it is a decent idea... doesn't make much sense to buy
full-blown Unity, with Windows 2003, Exchange and SQL licensing, just to give
voicemail to 100 users.<br>
<br>
To be honest, I really don't deal with small customers that would think CUC
would be a solution... the one time I did do a CUC install, the customer bought
IMAP licenses (so it was the same price as Unity) and they complained
constantly about how awful IMAP was...<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Tim Smith <<a
href="mailto:thsglobal@gmail.com">thsglobal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>No resilience in Unity Connection (currently) - heard
rumours it should be there in version 7.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>No networking in Unity Connection (again currently) - so it
is stand alone.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Unity can support Domino as a message store in both VM or UM
- done this a couple of times, and I hate it.. just quietly :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Unity is more scalable.. as already mentioned.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>UC is voicemail in a box.. quick and easy to setup and
manage.. no Microsoft skills required anymore..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Simple voice mail, and you are under the right number of
users (and you can live with no resilience for now) - then UC is a good choice.
The appliance model is great. It also has some of the advanced features that
some of your users may require. I think someone already mentioned there is some
cool integration with Exchange calendars and personal call routing rules.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Unity is an "adventure" to setup and manage :) and
will usually require Microsoft integration skills as well.. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Unity has lots of flexibility for deployment options to
consider also..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If you have a large complex deployment, sure you could end
up with multiple UC servers. But more likely you would look at full Unity, and
run failover pairs split across 2 x data centers..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>And of course if you want voicemail, email and faxes to all
co-exist in 1 big mailbox for each user.. then you have no choice.. Unity all
the way.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If you do talk Unity to a customer, you need to discuss
thoroughly the possible impact and integration with their existing network..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Tim<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote>On 8/6/08, <b>JASON BURWELL</b> <<a
href="mailto:JASON.BURWELL@foundersfcu.com" target="_blank">JASON.BURWELL@foundersfcu.com</a>>
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<p style='mso-margin-top-alt:12.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;
margin-left:47.0pt;text-indent:-47.0pt'><b>Table 4.</b> Cisco Voice and Unified
Messaging Products<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'><a name="11b9ba6b6eb23871_11b9949fa01b9180_wp9000"><b>Product<o:p></o:p></b></a></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'><b>Number of Users<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'><b>E-Mail Integration Options<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'><b>Networking to Other Voicemail Systems<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'><b>Integration with Third-Party Call Processing<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'><b>Speech Recognition<o:p></o:p></b></p>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Cisco Unity Express<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Up to 250<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Integrated<o:p></o:p></p>
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<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes, with Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging products<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>No<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>No<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Cisco Unity Connection<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Up to 7500<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Integrated<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes, with Cisco Voice and Unified Messaging products<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes, with most traditional and IP private branch
exchanges (PBXs)<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes<o:p></o:p></p>
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</tr>
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<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Cisco Unity Unified Messaging<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>7500 per server, networked to 250,000<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Integrated and Unified Messaging (Microsoft Exchange,
Lotus Notes, or Novell GroupWise)<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes, with Voice Profile for Internet Mail (VPIM),
Audio Messaging Interchange Specification (AMIS), Cisco Unity Bridge, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes, with most traditional and IP PBXs<o:p></o:p></p>
</td>
<td valign=top style='padding:4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt 4.5pt'>
<p style='margin:3.0pt'>Yes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Found
at this link <a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/product_data_sheet0900aecd80410ad6_ps6509_Products_Data_Sheet.html"
target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/voicesw/ps6788/vcallcon/ps556/product_data_sheet0900aecd80410ad6_ps6509_Products_Data_Sheet.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Jason
Burwell</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Telecom
Network Administrator</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Founders
Federal Credit Union</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Aman Chugh<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Difference between Unity Connection and Unity<br>
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I have always tried to understand what is the difference between Unity
Connection and Unity and when to sell Unity and Unity Connection . Looking for
differences in architecture of these applications and how they work with
Exchange.<o:p></o:p></p>
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TIA<br>
Aman<o:p></o:p></p>
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