<div>Hi Wil,</div>
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<div>Dummy probably wont help here.. I was thinking more for blocking and class of restriction use.</div>
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<div>What number ranges are you using here.. what are the overlaps?</div>
<div>Are you just adding a digit to existing numbers to make them 5 digits - or is it a new range?</div>
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<div>You want it so that...</div>
<div>NEC users can dial either 4 or 5 digits?</div>
<div>Cisco users can dial either 4 digits (for NEC extensions) or 5 digits (for cisco)?</div>
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<div>You should probably just add an access code to the old 4 digit extensions from Cisco > NEC.. </div>
<div>Sure it is a change.. but they are changing anyway.</div>
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<div>Depending on overlaps.. temporarily might be able to use a ! for your route pattern, and reduce Interdigit timer</div>
<div>This should let you match 5 digit extensions on Cisco, or 4 digits on NEC</div>
<div>It wont let you match 4 digits on Cisco though.. not sure if you want that.</div>
<div>Also depends how long it will be in place..</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
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<div>Tim</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 8/22/08, <b class="gmail_sendername">William Roy</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:William.Roy@l7.com.au" target="_blank">William.Roy@l7.com.au</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I have thought about a dummy gateway but was not sure how to implement. What I am trying to achieve is that we are moving a customer from a 4 digit dial plan to a 5 digit dial plan. The new system is CUCM 6.1 install with all of the IP phone now using 5 digits and we are integrated with an NEC PBX with an MGCP ISR gateways, the phones on the NEC are still using 4 digit. On the IP phones we want to be able to dial either the old 4 digit or the new 5 digit number. What I had setup was a 4 digit translation that added the 5 digit, then if it matched an IP phone it rang the IP phone, if it did not match an IP phone extension it sent it on a route pattern to the MGCP gateway and stripped off the 5 digit. That part worked for 4 digits dialing however it broke dialing a 5 digit extension of an IP phone, as some of the leading digits matched both the translation pattern plus the first digit in the 5 digit extension. So what I have currently setup is removed the translation, put in a 4 digit route pattern which points at the MGCP gateway, the call setup gets routed over the NEC and then routed back to the CUCM cluster if the call is for an IP phone, CUCM translates the number to a 5 digit number inbound from the gateway. The downside of this is that we use up two channels on the E1 per call between IP phones when dialled using 4 digits. Hope the above makes sense.</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> So I suppose if possible I need to setup the following...</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">4 digit route pattern to a dummy gateway, </span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Called number gets translated to a 5 digit pattern.</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Call gets sent back to the CUCM, if the extension matches an IP phone extension – ring phone</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">If the 5 digit number is not an extension on the CUCM – match a 5 digit route pattern send call to the MGCP gateway connected to the NEC and strip of 5<sup>th</sup> digit.</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Cheers</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Wil</span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Tim Smith [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:smithsonianwa@gmail.com" target="_blank">smithsonianwa@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 22 August 2008 4:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> William Roy<br><b>Cc:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><span><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Urgent Priority on Translation Patterns</span></span></p></div>
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<p>Translation patterns are always urgent.</p></div>
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<p>You could possibly use a Route Pattern instead? dummy gateway maybe?</p></div>
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<p>Really depends exactly what you are trying to do</p></div>
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<p>Cheers,</p></div>
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<p>Tim<br><br> </p></div>
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<p><span>On 8/22/08, <b>William Roy</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:William.Roy@l7.com.au" target="_blank">William.Roy@l7.com.au</a>> wrote:</span> </p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Is there anyway that Urgent priority can be turned off on a translation pattern in CUCM 6.x? The doco suggests that it cannot be.</span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Regards,</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Wil</span></p></div></div>
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