<div dir="ltr">Yeah, it would be one thing if you could explain it, but then the customer asks "why does a $150 ATA work, but a $5395 VG224 doesn't?" and your only answer is "I don't know" that's a bad situation.<br>
<br>-Adam<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">that's just sad.</font></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
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<div>Lelio<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<br>...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length, this 7'
crossover cable<br>is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan double
dutch leagues.</div>
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<b>From:</b>
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<b>To:</b> <a title="lelio@uoguelph.ca" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">Lelio Fulgenzi</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b> <a title="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:19
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Elevator
Phone</div>
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<div dir="ltr">It's sitting on top of the VG224 - both of them are probably less
than 50ft of cable away from the elevator call boxes.<br><br>-Adam<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial">how close is the ATA to the elevator? could it
be a line driver issue? viking sells some line drivers that might be
useful.</font></div>
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<div>Lelio<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<br>...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length, this
7' crossover cable<br>is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan
double dutch leagues.</div>
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<b>From:</b>
<a title="adman@adman.net" href="mailto:adman@adman.net" target="_blank">Adam
Blomfield</a> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Cc:</b>
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<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Sent:</b>
Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:19 PM</div>
<div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [cisco-voip] Elevator Phone</div>
<div><br></div>
<div dir="ltr">FYI I never could make it work on a VG224, but it worked fine
on an ATA186.<br><br>-Adam<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Adam Blomfield
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adman@adman.net" target="_blank">adman@adman.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">I actually believe that the VG224 defaults to high idle
voltage. I have not been able to come up with anything that will makes
this work off the VG224. I compared a debug of a call from the elevator
phone that was disconnected to a call from my buttset that went through
just fine. There are no differences between them. For some reason the
elevator device is not liking the line and disconnecting itself, but
nothing I have changed (idle voltage, output attenuation, input gain and
a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff) has made any difference. I'm going
to bring an ATA tomorrow to see if that makes any difference.
<br><br>Thanks to everyone who has made
suggestions!<br><br>-Adam<br><br>
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<div>On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Biffle, Gerrad <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Gerrad.Biffle@greensboro-nc.gov" target="_blank">Gerrad.Biffle@greensboro-nc.gov</a>></span>
wrote:<br></div></div>
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<div>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The
"idle-voltage high" is a great suggestion. We've had a lot of
luck with 12.4(15)T3 on our VG224s – no troubles to speak
of.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Carroll, Barry<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:13
PM<br><b>To:</b> Adam; Ocampo, Walter
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip]
Elevator Phone</div></div></span>
</p><p></p>
<p></p></div></div>
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<div>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"> </p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Adam,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">On the voice-port, try
adding the 'idle-voltage high' command. I've experienced the
same symptoms with elevator phones and intercoms and that command
resolved the issue.</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-Barry</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Adam<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:15
AM<br><b>To:</b> Ocampo, Walter<br><b>Cc:</b>
cisco-voip<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Elevator
Phone</span></p></div>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"> </p>
<div>
<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0.5in; margin-right: 0in;">Walter,<br><br>The
VG224 is running 12.4(9)T7. The calls are staying on campus, so I
can't debug it at the PSTN gateway. If I use an analog handset at the
location it works just fine - it appears to be an issue with the
elevator phone unit itself. I don't know if the phone is not detecting
the ringing or something like that. I'm going to head back over to it
in a few minutes to try some more hands on
troubleshooting.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Adam</p>
<div>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;">On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Ocampo,
Walter <<a href="mailto:WOCAMPO@broward.org" target="_blank">WOCAMPO@broward.org</a>> wrote:</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Hi Adam,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">How is the Port? It is
up?,</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Do you the see the port
unhook when they are dialing?I</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Also, try to make a
call out to the PSTN and do a debug in the gateway to see if you are
getting the numbers?</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What version are you
running in the VG224?</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span> </p>
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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Adam<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:14
AM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Elevator
Phone</span></p></div>
<div>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"> </p>
<div>
<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;">I have a couple of elevator phones
connected to a VG224 gateway that do not want to work. When you hit
the call button they pick up the line and dial digits, but after a
couple of seconds they disconnect. Other elevator units on campus
work, but there is a combination of elevators manufacturers and phone
models. I unfortunately do not have the make and model of the phones
that don't work in front on me. Any suggestions? The VG224 gateways
are MGCP
controlled.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Adam</p></div></div></div></div></div>
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