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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We strip out any elevator phone on our campus and
replace it with a standard we have on campus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I now have a really neat elevator phone in my house
that calls my brother when I push the big button. If I could only get it to stop
answering when it rings I'd have it plugged in all the time. ;)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Lelio<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario
N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length, this 7'
crossover cable<BR>is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan double
dutch leagues.</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=JBF005@shsu.edu href="mailto:JBF005@shsu.edu">Fuermann, Jason</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=adman@adman.net
href="mailto:adman@adman.net">'Adam Blomfield'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">'cisco-voip'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:56
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Elevator
Phone</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">I
was just wondering what the manufacture and model number of the elevator phone
is so that we can recommend against them and not experience this problem
ourselves.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Adam
Blomfield<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:34 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
Lelio Fulgenzi<BR><B>Cc:</B> cisco-voip<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip]
Elevator Phone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Yeah, it would be one thing if
you could explain it, but then the customer asks "why does a $150 ATA work,
but a $5395 VG224 doesn't?" and your only answer is "I don't know" that's a
bad situation.<BR><BR>-Adam<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">that's just
sad.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P
class=MsoNormal>Lelio<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length, this 7'
crossover cable<BR>is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan
double dutch leagues.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=adman@adman.net href="mailto:adman@adman.net" target=_blank>Adam
Blomfield</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=lelio@uoguelph.ca href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target=_blank>Lelio
Fulgenzi</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Thursday, August
28, 2008 4:19 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re: [cisco-voip]
Elevator Phone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">It's sitting on top of the
VG224 - both of them are probably less than 50ft of cable away from the
elevator call boxes.<BR><BR>-Adam<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target=_blank>lelio@uoguelph.ca</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">how close is the
ATA to the elevator? could it be a line driver issue? viking sells some line
drivers that might be useful.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P
class=MsoNormal>Lelio<BR>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>Lelio
Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph,
Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
<BR>...seen on a Geek Squad patch cord: "While it is the same length, this
7' crossover cable<BR>is not regulation issue for most competitive Manhattan
double dutch leagues.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">----- Original
Message ----- <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=adman@adman.net href="mailto:adman@adman.net" target=_blank>Adam
Blomfield</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> <A
title=cisco-voip@puck.nether.net href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip</A> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Thursday,
August 28, 2008 3:19 PM<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Re:
[cisco-voip] Elevator Phone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">FYI I never could make it
work on a VG224, but it worked fine on an
ATA186.<BR><BR>-Adam<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Adam Blomfield <<A
href="mailto:adman@adman.net" target=_blank>adman@adman.net</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">I actually believe that the
VG224 defaults to high idle voltage. I have not been able to come up with
anything that will makes this work off the VG224. I compared a debug of a
call from the elevator phone that was disconnected to a call from my
buttset that went through just fine. There are no differences between
them. For some reason the elevator device is not liking the line and
disconnecting itself, but nothing I have changed (idle voltage, output
attenuation, input gain and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff) has made
any difference. I'm going to bring an ATA tomorrow to see if that makes
any difference. <BR><BR>Thanks to everyone who has made
suggestions!<BR><BR>-Adam<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Biffle, Gerrad <<A
href="mailto:Gerrad.Biffle@greensboro-nc.gov"
target=_blank>Gerrad.Biffle@greensboro-nc.gov</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">The "idle-voltage high"
is a great suggestion. We've had a lot of luck with 12.4(15)T3 on
our VG224s – no troubles to speak of.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<A href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Carroll, Barry<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:13
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Adam; Ocampo, Walter <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Elevator
Phone<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Adam,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">On the voice-port, try adding
the 'idle-voltage high' command. I've experienced the same
symptoms with elevator phones and intercoms and that command resolved
the issue.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">-Barry</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
<A href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target=_blank>cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</A>] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Adam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:15
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ocampo, Walter<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Elevator
Phone</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 5.0pt">Walter,<BR><BR>The
VG224 is running 12.4(9)T7. The calls are staying on campus, so I can't
debug it at the PSTN gateway. If I use an analog handset at the location
it works just fine - it appears to be an issue with the elevator phone
unit itself. I don't know if the phone is not detecting the ringing or
something like that. I'm going to head back over to it in a few minutes
to try some more hands on
troubleshooting.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Adam<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Ocampo,
Walter <<A href="mailto:WOCAMPO@broward.org"
target=_blank>WOCAMPO@broward.org</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Hi Adam,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">How is the Port? It is
up?,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Do you the see the port unhook
when they are dialing?I</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Also, try to make a call out to
the PSTN and do a debug in the gateway to see if you are getting the
numbers?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">What version are you running in
the VG224?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"> <o:p></o:p></P>
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</B>Adam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:14
AM<BR><B>To:</B> cisco-voip<BR><B>Subject:</B> [cisco-voip] Elevator
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in">I have a couple of elevator phones
connected to a VG224 gateway that do not want to work. When you hit the
call button they pick up the line and dial digits, but after a couple of
seconds they disconnect. Other elevator units on campus work, but there
is a combination of elevators manufacturers and phone models. I
unfortunately do not have the make and model of the phones that don't
work in front on me. Any suggestions? The VG224 gateways are MGCP
controlled.<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR>Adam<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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