<div dir="ltr"><div>The problem I'm running into is that IC and IP speakers are both using SLP. each is mulitcasting <a href="http://239.255.255.253">239.255.255.253</a>. since both are multicasting that address the router will not forward the multicast to the other interface. so then I have to setup Source specific Multicasting to get the traffic through. Not wanting to setup more stuff to admin on each location.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Kyle Williams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Kyle.Williams@bdwalk.biz">Kyle.Williams@bdwalk.biz</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">I think SLP does go across layer 3 devices. We had the speakers/phones on VLAN 100 which had a sub-interface on the router. The server was on VLAN 50, which had another sub-interface on the router. There by its coming in and going out different interfaces. The server and most of the speakers were attached to a layer 2 switch on different VLANs and we had inter-vlan routing through the router.</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Scott Voll [mailto:<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:13 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kyle Williams<br><b>Cc:</b> Chris Ward; <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>
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<p>only goes to prove that slp going across a layer three devices does NOT work. because Multicast accross the router will not route back because there is already a SLP source on the interface. aaaaagggghhhhhhh!</p></div>
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<p>On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Kyle Williams <<a href="mailto:Kyle.Williams@bdwalk.biz" target="_blank">Kyle.Williams@bdwalk.biz</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Hey Scott,</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Not sure if your still trying to troubleshoot this but Yes, we have Berbee IP Speakers up and running.</span></p>
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<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">1. CM version: 6.0.1.2000-3</span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">2. Using SLP</span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">3. Not going across a WAN</span></p>
<p style="TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">4. It works very well.</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Our biggest trouble in setting up the speakers was getting the InformaCast server to communicate with IP Speakers. We finally got the multicast traffic working when we put the speakers onto the same vlan as our phone system, which was already multicast enabled. Another trouble we had was with the CFG file on the server. The default location is C:\Program Files\Berbee\INformaCast\webapp\resources\INformaCastSpeaker.cfg . Below is the contents of the file.</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d"> <InformaCast url="<a href="http://10.255.1.15:8081/InformaCast/admin?cmd=spkr" target="_blank">http://10.255.1.15:8081/InformaCast/admin?cmd=spkr</a>"/></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Hope this helps,</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d">Kyle Williams</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> Scott Voll<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a> </span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">An issue like that would need a TAC case for troubleshooting. But we use the upload feature for uploading background images and ringtones, so we know that non-cisco files can be posted there.<br>
<br>What method are you using to upload TFTP files?<br><br>Chris Ward <br>Cisco Systems Inc. <br>Customer Support Engineer<br>Unified Communication Infrastructure<br>Boxborough, MA <br>9:00am - 6:00pm Eastern <br>978-936-0217<br>
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<p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">From: </span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Scott Voll <<a href="http://svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:27:53 -0700<br>
<b>To: </b>Chris Ward <<a href="http://chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>><br><b>Cc: </b>Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="http://lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>" <<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] SLP -- Multicast? Berbee IP Speakers across wan<br><br>This would work great if it actually worked. I upload the file to the CM and then restart the TFTP service go back and search for the file and it's gone.<br>
<br>Berbee said that's the reason they went to SLP is because Cisco does NOT allow none cisco files on the TFTP server.<br> <br>if I'm doing something wrong....... PLEASE give me instructions on how to do it.<br>
<br>Thanks<br> <br>Scott<br><br>On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Chris Ward <<a href="http://chrward@cisco.com" target="_blank">chrward@cisco.com</a>> wrote:</span></p>
<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">You should be able to upload any file to the TFTP server on a CUCM from the OS Admin pages. Just make sure you restart the TFTP service after doing so. Not sure if that actually helps or hinders your current dilemma. <br>
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<p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">From: </span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Lelio Fulgenzi <<a href="http://lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a> <<a href="http://lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">http://lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> ><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:52:04 -0400<br><b>To: </b>Scott Voll <<a href="http://svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a> <<a href="http://svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">http://svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> >, "<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a> <<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>> " <<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">http://cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>> ><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [cisco-voip] SLP -- Multicast? Berbee IP Speakers across wan<br><br>I would go with a special VLAN for the berbee speakers. Especially, from what I remember, they can't do CDP and/or negotiate a voice vlan, so those network ports can easily be used by a PC (if they can reach) and hack your system. hack! hack.<br>
<br> <br>Lelio<br>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"><br>----- Original Message ----- <br> <br><b>From:</b> Scott Voll <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com" target="_blank">mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>> <br> <br><b>To:</b> <a href="http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a> <<a href="http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net" target="_blank">http://cisco-voip@puck-nether.net</a>> <br>
<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:48 PM<br> <br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] SLP -- Multicast? Berbee IP Speakers across wan<br> <br><br> <br> <br>Is anyone out in internet land using Berbee IP speakers?<br>
<br> <br> <br>are you also running CM 6.x?<br> <br> <br> <br>did you upgrade to SLP?<br> <br> <br> <br>Is it going across the WAN?<br> <br> <br> <br>Does it work?<br> <br> <br> <br>I have CM 6.1 and have upgraded the IP speakers to SLP since you can no longer put non-cisco files on the CM TFTP (thanks cisco). So to get around this Berbee has you upgrade to SLP (which is a Multicast <a href="http://239.255.255.253/" target="_blank">239.255.255.253</a> <<a href="http://239.255.255.253/" target="_blank">http://239.255.255.253/</a>> <<a href="http://239.255.255.253/" target="_blank">http://239.255.255.253</a> <<a href="http://239.255.255.253/" target="_blank">http://239.255.255.253/</a>> > ). So it tries TFTP fails and goes to SLP. Problem I'm having is that both the IP Speaker and IC both use the SLP Multicast address so my Cat 6509 doesn't want to multicast back to an address that is sourcing it. I'm just curious if I'm the only one? <br>
<br> <br> <br> <br>I think I'm about to setup a new vlan just for IP speakers with it's own TFTP (IC) and get it working this way. I can use SSMulticast but also an admin issue.<br> <br> <br> <br>TIA<br> <br> <br>
<br>Scott<br> <br><br> </span></p>
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