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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was looking in some of my books to get a
better understanding of the CDR database stuff and I have a few questions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>My limit right now in CM is set for 2
million CDR records.&nbsp; My alert is set at 80%.&nbsp; I have reached the 80%
limit so I am getting alerts daily.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know I can turn the alert % up, or I can
ignore it and when it gets full it will just start dropping off the oldest
records.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I really would just like to save more
records but I want to make sure it&#8217;s a safe thing to do especially with
our high volume spikes and this is our busy season.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The books I have say that the Call manager
can safely store up to around 10 million records.&nbsp; The default setting is
1.5 million.&nbsp; Ours is at 2 million.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Right now at 1.6 million records (80% of 2
million) I have about 6 months of Call manager CDR data.&nbsp; I would like to
keep a year of CDR records so I would really like to bump that limit up to
around 4 or 5 million records. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>We have two subscribers sending records
back to our publisher.&nbsp; We are on CCM 4.2(3).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there anything I should watch out for
in moving the limit this high?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Also, I have a lot of small flat files in
the BAD directory on the Publisher.&nbsp; According to the documentation these
are just corrupt CDR records that could not be written to the database.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Is there a tool to fix these, or do they
just need to be periodically deleted so they are not taking up
space.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for any input.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Micah Bennett</span></font></b><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'> <br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> James Buchanan
[mailto:jbuchanan@ctiusa.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 09, 2008
8:45 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Micah Bennett;
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: [cisco-voip] CAR and
CDR Records</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>That is correct.
Only the CDR records are affected. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Just a
note&#8212;BARS does not backup the IPCC historical records. You have to back
those up doing a SQL dump.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>James<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Micah Bennett<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 09, 2008
8:43 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [cisco-voip] CAR and CDR
Records<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Something
new for me today.&nbsp; Got an email message</span></font> <font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>from my systems</span></font>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>that
my CDR records and CAR records on my Call manager cluster have reached the
specified threshold. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
checked and the current settings are for 2 million rows with notification at
80% full.&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
also found that the automatic purge is not currently set.&nbsp; I am going to
set this for 365 days so we have the last year of data, but I wanted to confirm
that this only</span></font> <font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>affects the Call Manager records and not the IPCC
Records.&nbsp; My understanding is that all the IPCC records are stored in the
CRS database.&nbsp;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>

<p><a name=""><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;font-weight:bold'>Micah Bennett</span></font></b></a><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Telecommunications Admin</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p><b><font size=2 color=maroon face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:maroon;font-weight:bold'>Automated License Systems</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>

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