<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:v =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:x =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:access" xmlns:dt =
"uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s =
"uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:rowset" xmlns:z = "#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:publisher" xmlns:ss =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadsheet" xmlns:c =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns:odc =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html =
"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:q =
"http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" XMLNS:D = "DAV:" xmlns:x2 =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel/2003/xml" xmlns:ois =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds =
"http://www.w3.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/dsp" xmlns:udc =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd =
"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec =
"http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#" xmlns:sp =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi =
"http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcxf =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:wf =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:mver =
"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels =
"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/package/2006/relationships" xmlns:ex12t =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/types" xmlns:ex12m =
"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/2006/messages" XMLNS:Z =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:st = ""><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3429" name=GENERATOR><!--[if !mso]>
<STYLE>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</STYLE>
<![endif]-->
<STYLE>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Tahoma;
        panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:"Lucida Sans";
        panose-1:2 11 6 2 3 5 4 2 2 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0in;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:blue;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:purple;
        text-decoration:underline;}
p
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
        margin-right:0in;
        mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
        margin-left:0in;
        font-size:12.0pt;
        font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";}
span.EmailStyle18
        {mso-style-type:personal;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
span.EmailStyle19
        {mso-style-type:personal-reply;
        font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
        color:#1F497D;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;
        font-size:10.0pt;}
@page Section1
        {size:8.5in 11.0in;
        margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}
div.Section1
        {page:Section1;}
-->
</STYLE>
<!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></HEAD>
<BODY lang=EN-US vLink=purple link=blue>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2>Those phones have supported RFC2833 for a while
now.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2>If you want to check if your device supports RFC2833 reset
the phone and look at the CCM trace of it re-registering. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2>You'll find this message:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2>StationInit: (0000050) CapabilitiesRes capCount=12 caps=
25(40) 6(60) 4(40) 2(40) 7(60) 8(60) 86(60) 15(60) 16(60) 11(60) 12(60)
257(1).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=567524916-20112008><FONT face="Lucida Sans"
color=#0000ff size=2>The last item (257) indicates 2833
support.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Lucida Sans" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV><!-- Converted from text/plain format -->
<P><FONT size=2>-Ryan </FONT></P>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> c3voip [mailto:c3voip@nc.rr.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 20, 2008 11:09 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Ryan
Ratliff'; 'Jason Burns'<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-voip] SIP audio
conference bridge to CCM 4.1.3<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">But
I am guessing that our old 7940’s and 60’s don’t…right?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-C<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<DIV
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Ryan Ratliff
[mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:52
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'c3voip'; 'Jason Burns'<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [cisco-voip] SIP audio
conference bridge to CCM 4.1.3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Sans','sans-serif'">It
can't, though most phones support RFC 2833 natively.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-Ryan </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center>
<HR align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
</DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>c3voip<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:49
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Jason Burns'<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] SIP audio
conference bridge to CCM 4.1.3</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">How
can CUCM 6.X or 7.X translate SCCP DTMF from out-of-path to in-path for SIP
without MTP’s? How does that work?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-C<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV
style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none">
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Jason Burns
[mailto:burns.jason@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 19, 2008
7:21 PM<BR><B>To:</B> c3voip<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] SIP audio
conference bridge to CCM 4.1.3<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">A few options:<BR><BR>1. Upgrade
to CCM 6.Xor 7.X so you don't need the MTP anymore.<BR>2. Provision a separate
CallManager (or 2) for the sole purpose of acting as an MTP and increase the
number of possible channels on it.<BR>3. Purchase some CMMs<BR>4. Purchase some
3845s loaded with DSPs.<BR><BR>Options 2, 3, and 4 don't really make much sense.
As soon as you had CMMs, 3845s, or extra IPVMSApp CallManagers you wouldn't
really need your SIP conference solution anymore.<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM, c3voip <<A
href="mailto:c3voip@nc.rr.com">c3voip@nc.rr.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>I am considering a purchase of a SIP audio conference bridge to connect via a
SIP trunk from CCM <A href="http://4.1.3." target=_blank>4.1.3.</A>
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Since the SIP trunk requires an MTP, what could I use for MTP resources to
get up to 500 SCCP G.711 calls across my SIP trunk? From what I have read
the CCM software MTP's are only good for 48 calls, what would be a better
solution?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P> <o:p></o:p></P>
<P>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P>-C<o:p></o:p></P>
<P> <o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>cisco-voip
mailing list<BR><A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A><BR><A
href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip"
target=_blank>https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</A><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>