<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>Or just say it's a PBX like any other PBX.<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Timothy Frazee" <Timothy_Frazee@adp.com><br>To: "Louis Koekemoer (ZA)" <Louis.Koekemoer@za.didata.com>, "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>, cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:35:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] VOIP in Ethiopia<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">I’ve
had this problem before. I just tell the provider that what I run inside of the
building, pass the demark, is none of they’re business. Then, I have crazy
customers who don’t know what they are talking about, but think they do
and think VoIP is insecure. I tell them its only IP inside the building, not on
the “internet” makes it simple.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">My
suggestion would be to tell the provider to activate the PRI and for them to
forget about the backside technology.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Louis Koekemoer (ZA)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 24, 2008 4:34 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matthew Loraditch; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] VOIP in Ethiopia</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">My current issue is
that I’m doing a move for a customer to a new building, and at the old
building we just used FXO’s, and now we want to use PRI. Somewhere
someone mentioned to the Telco we want to use VOIP, and now they refuse to
activate the PRI. I mean the PRI is for PSTN and not for VOIP. I need another
company name to just proof to them that there is someone using it. I’m
sure there must be someone using VOIP in Ethiopia</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">Louis
Koekemoer</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">Cisco
IPT Systems Engineer</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">Dimension
Data</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">Tel.
+27 (11) 575 6560</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">Mob.
+27 (76) 608 7221</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA">Fax.
+27 (11) 576 6560</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA"><a href="Louis.Koekemoer@za.didata.com" target="_blank">Louis.Koekemoer@za.didata.com</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 24pt; font-family: Webdings; color: green;">P</span><span style="color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: green;" lang="NL-BE">Before
printing I think about the environment</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">For more information about
Dimension Data, please go to <u><a href="http://www.dimensiondata.com/" target="_blank">www.dimensiondata.com</a></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 November 2008 12:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] VOIP in Ethiopia</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">My previous employer had an
office in Addis Ababa and while we weren’t doing voip, connectivity there
is horrible. Even when we had to lodge visiting employees in the Hilton their
internet was not stable and that was one of the more expensive western places
there.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color: black;">Matthew Loraditch</span></b><span style="color: black;"><br>
10944 Beaver Dam Road, Suite A<br>
Hunt Valley, Maryland 21030 <br>
<a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: black;">support@heliontechnologies.com</span></a><br>
(p) (410) 252-8830<br>
(F) (443) 541-1593<br>
<br>
Visit us at <a href="http://www.heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: black;">www.heliontechnologies.com</span></a> <br>
Support Issue? Email <a href="mailto:support@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank"><span style="color: black;">support@heliontechnologies.com</span></a> for fast
assistance!</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Joris Arts<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 24, 2008 5:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Louis Koekemoer (ZA)'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] VOIP in Ethiopia</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Hi Louis,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Not in Ethiopia,
however my experience in other countries in Africa has learned me that the
availability of reliable connections is heaviliy depending on the location:
Capitals and economic centres have international connections via landline or
aggregted VSAT and are capable of running Voip or even Video over IP. Prepare
for high circuit costs though.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">I am currently doing
a video over IP project with VSAT connections into Angola, Congo, Cameroon and
Nigeria. Though the costs are high, the service is possible at a fair quality,
even if the latency is huge (over 400 ms).<br>
<br>
If you move away from the main cities it will be an entirely different story:
then probably you need your private VSAT connection, which is a costly affair,
I don’t think there will be network connections out of Addis Abeba or any
other main city in Ethiopia.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">My 5 cents...</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Best regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Joris Arts</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Speechworks
Consultancy</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB">Looiersgracht 78</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">1016VT Amsterdam</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">+31 (0) 652529442</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="NL">jarts@speechworks.nl</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Louis Koekemoer (ZA)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 November 2008 18:59<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] VOIP in Ethiopia</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA">Has anyone had any experience with VOIP in
Ethiopia?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA">Louis Koekemoer</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA">Cisco IPT Systems
Engineer</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA">Dimension Data</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA">Tel.
+27 (11) 575 6560</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA">Mob.
+27 (76) 608 7221</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA">Fax.
+27 (11) 576 6560</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA"><a href="Louis.Koekemoer@za.didata.com" target="_blank">Louis.Koekemoer@za.didata.com</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 24pt; font-family: Webdings; color: green;">P</span><span style="color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: green;" lang="NL-BE">Before
printing I think about the environment</span><span lang="EN-ZA"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";" lang="EN-ZA"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">For more information about Dimension Data,
please go to <u><a href="http://www.dimensiondata.com/" target="_blank">www.dimensiondata.com</a></u></span></p>
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