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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It actually does register perfectly to CCM, and the analog phone
works perfectly both incoming and outgoing, that&#8217;s the really weird thing. Just
the second we plug it into the fax machine, it lights up and refuses to do
anything, with ECM and V.34 disabled (this machine doesn&#8217;t actually have a
Super G3 setting)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I did run a prserv log against the ATA while it was hooked up to
the fax, and it just looks like this:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>[0]DPKT 1st: 160 0, pt 18<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>|-&gt;SetRingerMode[0]:1<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>|-&gt;CallState[0]=1 L=1 R=2a26538 FG=0 r=0,0<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[0]StartTone 2<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If we can&#8217;t get this working, I think we will wind up going the
VG224 route, rather than the mess of FXS cards we&#8217;re currently using in the existing
building.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<TD VALIGN="top" WIDTH="45%"><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="navy"><STRONG>John V. Weigand</STRONG><BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="black" SIZE="1"><FONT COLOR="navy">Help Desk Support/Executive Support<BR></FONT><BR>Litigation Management, Inc.<BR>300 Allen-Bradley Drive<br>Suite 200<BR>Mayfield Heights, OH 44124<BR><BR></FONT></FONT></TD>
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<P><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="navy"><FONT SIZE="1"><FONT COLOR="black"><BR><BR><FONT SIZE="3"><BR></FONT>Tel:</FONT> 440-484-2000</FONT><BR></FONT><FONT SIZE="1"><FONT COLOR="black">Fax: 440-484-2009<BR>Cell: <BR>email: <a href="mailto:jvw@medicineforthedefense.com">jvw@medicineforthedefense.com</a> <BR></FONT></FONT></FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2"><FONT COLOR="#808080"><FONT SIZE="1"><BR>PRIVILEGE AND CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE <BR><BR>The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. It may contain privileged and confidential material and may be protected under law by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling (800) 778-5424. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you.<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT COLOR="black"><BR><FONT FACE="Verdana" SIZE="2">

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Jason Aarons (US)
[mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Weigand, John V.; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Analog modem and faxes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>If you plug an analog phone into the ATA it&#8217;s can&#8217;t call in/out.
Doesn&#8217;t show registered in CCMAdmin. &nbsp;I&#8217;d change TAC to focus on
that.&nbsp; Verify your TFTP option 150 and then you might have to look at
trace/log files around the registration with CallManager.&nbsp; You can also
sniff the Ethernet port with Ethereal and see if SCCP packets are going
back/forth.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The dsp in the ATA won&#8217;t go past 14.4 reliably&#8230;..You need to
disable Super G3 and ECM on the fax machine.&nbsp; If you can&#8217;t disable them
you may need to replace the fax machine or find another solution other than
ATA-186.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>If you want a better dsp buy the VG224.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Weigand, John V.<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Analog modem and faxes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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    color:#1F497D'>Sorry to resurrect an older thread, but we&#8217;ve been trying to
    figure out how to handle this going into a new building. We have an ATA 186
    we&#8217;ve been testing with, turned off ECM and V.34 mode on the fax machine,
    but as soon as it&#8217;s plugged into the ATA, the red light on the ATA goes on,
    never turns off, and it won&#8217;t place or receive calls. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
    color:#1F497D'>TAC is basically refusing to help since the fax machine by
    default runs at 33.6, and they say it just won&#8217;t work, period, but that
    doesn&#8217;t seem quite right to me. Anyone run into a problem like this before?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fuermann, Jason<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 31, 2008 5:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jonathan Madziarczyk'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'cisco-voip@puck.nether.net'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Analog modem and faxes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We are using VG224&#8217;s in SCCP modem pass-through. Most of ours
faxes didn&#8217;t require configuring. However, there were a few that we had to turn
ECM off on. We are also using modems (Visa machines primarily) with this
configuration without problems (our ATM&#8217;s were temperamental but apparently
they didn&#8217;t use standard modems).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 31, 2008 2:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Madziarczyk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Analog modem and faxes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>It's not just the gateways you
have to configure, but the fax machines. Have you turned off SG3 support?
Essentially you have to put their max speed to 14,400 and turn off error
correction. Similar to modems, max speed is 14,000.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
&quot;Bad grammar makes me [sic]&quot; - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Jonathan Madziarczyk&quot; &lt;JMad@cityofevanston.org&gt;<br>
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 1:21:53 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Analog modem and faxes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>So what is everyone doing about analog data devices?&nbsp; I&#8217;ve got
a couple of fax machines and modems using VG224 and ATA186 devices and I&#8217;m
still having issues with them.&nbsp; I&#8217;ve gone through TAC and set up the
adapters and my voice gateways to match their fax/modem recommendations, but I
still have intermittent issues (faxes failing, modems not sending the full
info, etc.)</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Modems are still a little fuzzy for me, not sure how best to get
rid of those, as for faxing, I&#8217;d like to get off of the analog fax machines all
together, but not sure how to do that yet either&#8230;what are you guys using?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Obviously our interest is to keep any changes low cost and reliable.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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