<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div>Um, yeah. They are already EOL. You can't buy them anymore and they are EOS 2012. </div><div><br></div><div>It takes us about that long to plan for such a large budget item. <br><br>Lelio Fulgenzi, <span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373); ">Senior Analyst</span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">Computing & Communications</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">University of Guelph</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">519-824-4120 x56354</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">...sent from my iPod - please pardon my fat fingers ;) </span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.231373);">[XKJ2000]</span></div></div><div><br>On Dec 27, 2008, at 12:30 PM, "Jonathan Charles" <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Well, I have a lot of customers who are aggregating a LOT of PRIs on 6608s... what is Cisco going to replace it with?<br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:37 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"></a><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>I'm gonna miss being able to register one port to one cluster and another port to a different cluster. <br>
<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, <span>Senior Analyst</span><div><span>Computing & Communications</span></div><div><span>University of Guelph</span></div><div><span>519-824-4120 x56354</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div>
<span>...sent from my iPod - please pardon my fat fingers ;) </span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>[XKJ2000]</span></div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br>On Dec 27, 2008, at 10:25 AM, "Jonathan Charles" <<a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com"><a href="mailto:jonvoip@gmail.com">jonvoip@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Yeah, that sucks... I kind of like the 6608... but we just got a 2821 so, we will use that instead...<br><br><br>Jonathan<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Linsemier, Matthew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:MLinsemier@apassurance.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:MLinsemier@apassurance.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:MLinsemier@apassurance.com"><a href="mailto:MLinsemier@apassurance.com">MLinsemier@apassurance.com</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I was informed that the CCM-ACT's will not support this Codec
either, so I was a bit annoyed by this as well. I would guess that the 6608
will probably fall in the same boat. It looks like DSP farms in routers
running IOS is the way that Cisco wants us to transcode in the future.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">MAtt</span></p>
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<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a></a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 19, 2008 2:56 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] iLBC and Cisco 7965s...</span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Right, I found the same info...
it seems well supported in 12.4.15T and above in IOS (MGCP and H.323) but I
have been unable to find any info on transcoding/support on a 6608... my guess
is the DSPs can't handle the codec...<br>
<br>
Annoying.<br>
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<br>
Jonathan</p>
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<p>On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 1:31 PM, Ryan Ratliff <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com"><a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a></a>> wrote:</p>
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<p>Can't seem to find the 6608 downloads on <a href="http://cisco.com" target="_blank">cisco.com</a> but the first place I see
that 6608 load is in a devpack from May of this year. That's actually a
lot newer than I would have thought.</p>
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<p>The gist of my first email is that I don't think you're
going to see support for iLBC on the 6608. </p>
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<p>Unity Connections 7.0(1) I can see supports iLBC, not sure
on the Unity TSP.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 9pt; color: rgb(136, 136, 136);">-Ryan</span><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"></span></p>
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<p>On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:</p>
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Well, I am running CCM 7.0.1<br>
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The 6608 is running D00404000032 (base load from ccm 7)<br>
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Unity TSP is 8.3.1<br>
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7965 is running 8.4.1S (iLBC was supported in 8.3)<br>
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Not sure what TSP or 6608 load supports iLBC... <br>
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<br>
Jonathan<br>
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<p>On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Ryan Ratliff <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com"><a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com">rratliff@cisco.com</a></a>>
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<p>What load is your 6608 running? What date was that
load released?</p>
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<p>When did the IP phones start supporting iLBC?</p>
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<p>I think the answer to those questions will tell you why you
can't get calls to your 6608 to use iLBC.</p>
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<p>As for Unity it just depends on if they have a TSP that
supports iLBC.</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 9pt;">-Ryan</span></p>
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<p>On Dec 19, 2008, at 12:33 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote:</p>
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OK, so how do we get this to work...?<br>
<br>
I have Cisco 7965s at remote sites (user's homes) and when they make calls,
their codec is showing up as G.729, even tho their region is iLBC (G.728).<br>
<br>
My voice gateway is a 6608 (single PRI, rest are transcoders, conf bridges)...<br>
<br>
Calls to Unity use G.729 as well...<br>
<br>
Calls to other 7965s (on net) are iLBC...<br>
<br>
So, how do I support this codec<br>
<br>
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<br>
Jonathan</p>
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