<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>The router is on the Internet, is configured for MGCP and has ip advanced services with the firewall feature enabled (for VPN and nat). Wouldn't that block external connections?<br></div><div><br>On Jan 7, 2009, at 9:48 PM, "Ryan West" &lt;<a href="mailto:rwest@zyedge.com">rwest@zyedge.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">If the router is connected to the Internet, both H323 TCP/1720
and SIP UDP/5060 need to blocked.&nbsp; I don’t remember the command offhand,
but on some versions of code it is show ip sockets.&nbsp; Check this out to
actually disable default SIP and H323 processing:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D"><a href="https://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/How_to_disable_H.323_and_Session_Initiation_Protocol_(SIP)_services_on_TCP_ports_1720_and_5060_of_a_IOS_gateway_router"><a href="https://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/How_to_disable_H.323_and_Session_Initiation_Protocol_(SIP)_services_on_TCP_ports_1720_and_5060_of_a_IOS_gateway_router">https://supportwiki.cisco.com/ViewWiki/index.php/How_to_disable_H.323_and_Session_Initiation_Protocol_(SIP)_services_on_TCP_ports_1720_and_5060_of_a_IOS_gateway_router</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">-ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">
<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 07, 2009 23:13<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com"><a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com">cenders@homesbyavi.com</a></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> VOIP Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Fraud calls to Cuba - Please read<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
Wow...exaclty the same problem I had...but with PRI...I have a site in Egypt
that the user called us one day and informed that he has a bill from the Teleco
for 100,000$ for a period of 3 months and they never produce this amount of
calls...all calls were for random numbers and the call never exceeded 1 minute
and these random numbers happen to be starting with 00 which is the
internationl prefix here in Egypt.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
After long nights of troubleshootting...I found that the gateway was configured
to register SIP phones from the internet and I found an IP address from Mexico
city that is trying this random calls so frequent, the strange thing is that
the gateway was accepting these calls and route it to H323 side which relay the
call to the PRI.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I did the following to ensure that it will not happen again...removed SIP at
all from the gateway...converted the gateway to MGCP so that every call that
will pass the gateway will need signalling from Callmanager and will leave a
record in the CDR. But the strange thing the problem contiuned...<br>
&nbsp;<br>
During troubleshooting we noticed something strange...alot of incoming calls
coming to the PRI from a certain local number...and it was 3 AM in the morning
we called this number and he told us that he know no one in this site and he
has a problem that he got high invoices from the Teleco too...so we come up
with this conculsion...seems that the CO. equipments has some problems and it
is generating calls on behalf of the user to random numbers...a strange thing I
know but till now this company still going to discussions with the teleco to
solve this problem.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
I suggest to do the followin...try to review CDR files and have a detailed bill
from your Teleco and try to compare these calls with the CDR calls maybe this
would help you...also try to activate some debugs and show commands "there
is some tools that can automate show command every 5 mins or so" to know
exactly when these calls happen and what is the source of it.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
Good luck with this strange issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Thanks,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><br>
<span style="color:black">Ahmed Elnagar</span><br>
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font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From: <a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com"><a href="mailto:cenders@homesbyavi.com">cenders@homesbyavi.com</a></a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net"><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></a><br>
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 20:26:56 -0700<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Fraud calls to Cuba - Please read<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hello
List,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">I’ve got a situation with 2 remote sites.&nbsp; Over the
course of several days in late November, somehow the analog POTS line in the
site (which we use for SRST backup) proceeded to make approx 4,940 calls to
Cuba.&nbsp; There wasn’t really a pattern to the calls.&nbsp; It started
with a couple of repeated calls to the same number and from that point, the
dialed number changed (not dialed in any sort of sequential pattern
either).&nbsp; Calls varied in duration from 0 seconds to many minutes
long.&nbsp; Sometimes the next call would happen right away and other times
there would be several minutes delay between calls.&nbsp; This proceeded to
occur over the course of about a day and a half until the POTS provider called
us and we blocked the line.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">The analog line in the show home serves 2 purposes.&nbsp; It is
connected to the SRST FXO port on the Cisco 2801 router and also connects to
the analog fax machine.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">At this point, the POTS provider feels that somehow the 2801
router has been compromised and is being used to route calls out the FXO
port.&nbsp; We have a cordless phone on an ATA, and at first they felt this was
the source but I indicated that any calls from the cordless phone would leave
through our PRI in the main office, through the phone line on the FXO port.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Even if someone had managed to guess our admin password for the
console of the router, I don’t believe that person sitting on the
Internet would be able to get a call to connect from their computer, through
the Internet, and leave out our FXO port in our site.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">I’m wondering if anyone on the list has some thoughts as
to how the system could have been compromise or if it just isn’t
possible.&nbsp; The POTS line is actually a digital line provided by Shaw (a
local cable/telco in Alberta).&nbsp; I feel that their “digital”
phone terminal has been compromised though it isn’t connected to the
Internet in any way.&nbsp; One other possibility is old school phone phreaking
where someone has actually tapped into the physical line but they would have
been sitting outside in the cold for a very long time making these crazy calls.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">I look forward to any insight the collective brain power of this
list can provide. The bill for these calls is over $6000.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Regards,</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;
color:#1F497D">Corbett Enders.</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Enders</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Manager<br>
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