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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I run 2x CUCM 7.0, Unity connection and XP
pro for testing in Vmware workstation 6. They run fine with Quad Core and
4 gig RAM.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>CM 6 will work in VM 5.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>HTH,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Brion<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Voice Noob<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 12, 2009
12:00 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Ahmed Elnagar';
lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'VOIP Group'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM on
Virtual Servers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I have UCCX 7.0, MPE
2.1, and Presence 7.0 running in VMWare ESX<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ahmed Elnagar<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 12, 2009
11:54 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> VOIP Group<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM on
Virtual Servers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Verdana'><br>
Actually yes, a friend of mine was installing 7.0 on VMware and it works and we
were shocked for this but seems that it is working normally, but as I am
preparing for CCIE current blueprint and I am using 4.1 version but anyway it
is a good thing that Vmware is working with current version.<br>
<br>
Regarding the Demo version I think it is the NFR that is orderable for Advanced
unified communication partners and it is really amazing it includes a lot of
software pack. (software only) with only 275$; yet I think same cisco
restriction regarding the platform is still the same.<br>
<br>
Anyone tried unity connection, IPCC, presence server on VMware??<br>
<br>
Note: for information about NFR see the below link<br>
<a
href="http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/sell/promotions/uc_system_release_nfr_program.html">http://www.cisco.com/web/partners/sell/promotions/uc_system_release_nfr_program.html</a> <br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Thanks,</span></font><font
size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><br>
<font color=black><span style='color:black'>Ahmed Elnagar</span></font><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:41:35
-0500<br>
From: lelio@uoguelph.ca<br>
To: ahmed_elnagar@hotmail.com<br>
CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; wsisk@cisco.com; scasper@mtb.com<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM on Virtual Servers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Actually,
I believe you can install v7 on VMware now. It installs with special demo
licenses and everything. I have not tested this, but this is what I heard.<br>
<br>
<br>
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(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Ahmed Elnagar" <ahmed_elnagar@hotmail.com><br>
To: wsisk@cisco.com, scasper@mtb.com<br>
Cc: "VOIP Group" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:37:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM on Virtual Servers<br>
<br>
<br>
I think it would be useful for training and Lab purpose if cisco supported...we
are not concerned about system performance or what so ever we just need to have
a couple of virtual machines on a single server to reduce lab costs and to
always be able to revert to a clean machine state ...I even tried to
install CM on vmware on a supported platform but the installation detects that
it is a VMware and refuses to install.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Thanks,<br>
Ahmed Elnagar<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009
12:25:03 -0500<br>
From: wsisk@cisco.com<br>
To: SCASPER@mtb.com<br>
CC: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM on Virtual Servers<br>
<br>
it is more in the tradition of cisco documentation. not stated = not
supported.<br>
<br>
There is a listing of supported platforms per version in the compatiblity
section of CM documentation:<br>
<a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_device_support_tables_list.html">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/voicesw/ps556/products_device_support_tables_list.html</a><br>
<a
href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/compat/mcs-server-os-1204.xls">Cisco
Unified Communications Operating System Supported Server Hardware Compatibility
Matrix</a><br>
<br>
alas no virtual.<br>
<br>
primary limiting factor so far: performance and system impact. how does
CM fare with being snapshotted, rolled forward, and rolled backward. ! wo!
uld those be 'supported' backup strategies?<br>
<br>
/wes<br>
<br>
On Monday, January 12, 2009 12:00:50 PM, STEVEN CASPER <a
href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com"><SCASPER@mtb.com></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Does Cisco have a link
or statement somewhere that explains their position as to why their unified
applications, in particular Call Manager, are not supported in a virtual
server environment for production implementations and why specific
hardware specifications must be followed? I know the answers to these questions
but I am looking for a Cisco response..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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