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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>According to their site, they are still on Cisco hardware. If
you scrub through the site, it would appear that some users are on UCM servers
and some on a SIP server. Perhaps it wasn’t as successful as they had hoped? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.shsu.edu/~ucs_www/telephone/faq.html">http://www.shsu.edu/~ucs_www/telephone/faq.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Scott Voll
[mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2009 5:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Matt Slaga (US); cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I was thinking aboout that too. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Scott<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>I've always wondered how this turned out....<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/091206-von-sam-houston.html"
target="_blank">http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/091206-von-sam-houston.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><br>
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<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <<a
href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" target="_blank">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>><br>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"
target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "Tim Reimers" <<a
href="mailto:treimers@ashevillenc.gov" target="_blank">treimers@ashevillenc.gov</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent: Wednesday, February 18,
2009 4:01:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Asterisk's
biggest issue with corporate America is supportability. I agree that some
SMBs (focus on 'S') are moving that route because of 'packaged' solutions, but
I have yet to see a medium to large company give it more than a cursory
glance. Once they see the support model (or lack thereof), they continue
looking.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim Reimers<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Asterisk is another one they will have to worry about. More in the
small business sector in the short/med term, but once they get scaling and high
availability sorted out, it will be a challenger. And yes, as someone
mentioned, it needs to be more user friendly. I think what you will find is
that people will "sell" the front end and asterisk will continue to
be free on the back end.<br>
<br>
There are already asterisk appliances available. This will also make it a ripe
product.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Tim Reimers" <<a href="mailto:treimers@ashevillenc.gov"
target="_blank">treimers@ashevillenc.gov</a>><br>
To: "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com"
target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:06:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>well,
on the note of moving away from Unity</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I'll
ask the question:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>Has
anyone on the list considered or experimented with integrating Asterisk's
IVR/voicemail/call handlers into UCM at any level?</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I
did a SIP trunk between an Asterisk server and a CCM 4.X server once and it
worked quite handily to support a few wireless SIP phones.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I've
never tried out the IVR capacities of Asterisk and just wondered if anyone
found it to be usable?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:blue'>I'd
be interested to hear where people place Asterisk on the playing field now.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Tim
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tkachuk,Birni<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>It
is definately something I've been kicking around for some time. I just
haven't yet pulled the trigger.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I
have Exchange 2k7 UM installed at one of my School Districts and they love it
(but they also have never had unity). The have a great voice portal which
they love. they have true UM. Negitves are lack of Call handlers
and the such.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I
have a SLA with MS for pretty much all Enterprise OS / Apps and it would
not cost use much at all. I've been totally frustrated with Cisco on
their pricing structure for smartnet / subscriptions. I'm paying more for
my Unity server in contract then my CM cluster.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>budgets
get any tighter and it may just push me over the top. We already use OCS
for IM / Presence, and I'm working on integrating CM into it. I think I
could see us going to Excheange 2k7 pretty easy. I don't see coming off
CM for Call Processing or UCCx for contact center, but Unity is pretty easy to
flip a coin. and it would get it off my plate and on to my Exchange / AD
guys plate =)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>2009/2/18
Tkachuk,Birni <<a href="mailto:birnit@nait.ca" target="_blank">birnit@nait.ca</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Has
anyone thrown in the towel with Unity and opted out for the Microsoft Voicemail
product. We're aware of the work around with MWI. What
about interfacing with a Blackberry Enterprise Server? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Lucida Calligraphy";color:#0F243E'>Birni
Tkachuk</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0F243E'>Voice
Services Specialist </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0F243E'>Information
Services</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#0F243E'>NAIT</span><span
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