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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="Ih2E3d">From: "Matt Slaga (US)" <<a href="mailto:Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com" target="_blank">Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com</a>><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>, "Tim Reimers" <<a href="mailto:treimers@ashevillenc.gov" target="_blank">treimers@ashevillenc.gov</a>><br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c">Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:01:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail<br><br>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Asterisk's biggest issue with corporate America is supportability. I agree that some SMBs (focus on 'S') are moving that route because of 'packaged' solutions, but I have yet to see a medium to large company give it more than a cursory glance. Once they see the support model (or lack thereof), they continue looking.</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim Reimers<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail</span></p>
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<p style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Asterisk is another one they will have to worry about. More in the small business sector in the short/med term, but once they get scaling and high availability sorted out, it will be a challenger. And yes, as someone mentioned, it needs to be more user friendly. I think what you will find is that people will "sell" the front end and asterisk will continue to be free on the back end.<br>
<br>There are already asterisk appliances available. This will also make it a ripe product.<br><br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Tim Reimers" <<a href="mailto:treimers@ashevillenc.gov" target="_blank">treimers@ashevillenc.gov</a>><br>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">well, on the note of moving away from Unity</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I'll ask the question:</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">Has anyone on the list considered or experimented with integrating Asterisk's IVR/voicemail/call handlers into UCM at any level?</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I did a SIP trunk between an Asterisk server and a CCM 4.X server once and it worked quite handily to support a few wireless SIP phones.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I've never tried out the IVR capacities of Asterisk and just wondered if anyone found it to be usable?</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue">I'd be interested to hear where people place Asterisk on the playing field now.</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tkachuk,Birni<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft Voicemail vs Unity Voicemail</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">It is definately something I've been kicking around for some time. I just haven't yet pulled the trigger.</span></p></div>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">I have Exchange 2k7 UM installed at one of my School Districts and they love it (but they also have never had unity). The have a great voice portal which they love. they have true UM. Negitves are lack of Call handlers and the such.</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">I have a SLA with MS for pretty much all Enterprise OS / Apps and it would not cost use much at all. I've been totally frustrated with Cisco on their pricing structure for smartnet / subscriptions. I'm paying more for my Unity server in contract then my CM cluster.</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">budgets get any tighter and it may just push me over the top. We already use OCS for IM / Presence, and I'm working on integrating CM into it. I think I could see us going to Excheange 2k7 pretty easy. I don't see coming off CM for Call Processing or UCCx for contact center, but Unity is pretty easy to flip a coin. and it would get it off my plate and on to my Exchange / AD guys plate =)</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">2009/2/18 Tkachuk,Birni <<a href="mailto:birnit@nait.ca" target="_blank">birnit@nait.ca</a>></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black">Has anyone thrown in the towel with Unity and opted out for the Microsoft Voicemail product. We're aware of the work around with MWI. What about interfacing with a Blackberry Enterprise Server? </span></p>
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