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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>thanx wes, ryan and chris..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>looks we're going to prepare for upgrade..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>one more question and i'm done..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>i've performed several upgrades from
6.1(1) to 6.1(2) in production, and 6.1(2) to 6.1(3)-2000..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>the question is, since this customer site
is big for european deployments..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>of course we're going to stick with readme
during upgrade, but i'm interrested from your experience..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>is it enough that system &quot;looks&quot;
safe, up and running, that &quot;sh perf......&quot; command shows good
replication or we need to go into the details and check dynamic tables in
&quot;utils dbreplication status&quot; report..in the case there are some
errors..<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Chris Ward
[mailto:chrward@cisco.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 23, 2009 7:33
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Wes Sisk; Djokic Sinisa<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM
6.1(2) cluster administration problems !!!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Also, both are resolved in 6.1.3.<br>
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Chris Ward <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri;font-weight:bold'>From: </span></font></b><font size=2
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>Wes Sisk &lt;<a
href="wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></b>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:23:25
-0400<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To: </span></b>Djokic Sinisa &lt;<a
href="sdjokic@mds.rs">sdjokic@mds.rs</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc: </span></b>&lt;<a
href="cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></b>Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM
6.1(2) cluster administration problems !!!<br>
<br>
2 very commonly known issues that would trigger this: CSCso93220 , CSCsq95431 .
&nbsp;both affect 6.1(2) base version. &nbsp;we would need your complete
version to say more.<br>
<br>
/wes<br>
<br>
On Monday, March 23, 2009 2:10:22 PM, Djokic Sinisa &lt;<a href="sdjokic@mds.rs">sdjokic@mds.rs</a>&gt;
&lt;<a href="mailto:sdjokic@mds.rs">mailto:sdjokic@mds.rs</a>&gt; &nbsp;wrote:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>hi group..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>we're going to definetely open a TAC case regarding this, but does
anybody experienced similar problem in this version..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>from time to time, system stucks in the state that every change that is
performed on the web admin page and properly saved, updated etc, doesn't
reflect &nbsp;on the phones..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>customer admin cannot even reset the phone, although they send request
over the web admin, the phones do not react..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>so, every change made doesn't reflect the phones although it is properly
propagated through web admin..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>phones are registered to subscriber primary, and secondary to
publisher..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>recently the problem was solved by restarting the servers - all of them,
today, it was similar, but just by restarting the subscriber callmanager
service..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>replication seems fine, atliest count of 393 and db replication status
of 2..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>we didn't looked at dynamic tables in &quot;utils dbreplication status
&quot; at this moment..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>it smells to me like a case i had were we had to reset the cluster
replication..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>any experience on this..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>also, i've noticed that customer added bunch of partitions etc. with BAT
using spaces in the partition, route list etc. names..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>i'm aware that it is supported but, that's something i'll never
recommend ( to put spaces in partition names, RL names etc. )..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>any thoughts on that?..<br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>regards..<br>
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font-family:Verdana'>System Engineer<br>
CCNP,CCDA,CQS-CWLDS,CS-CIPTDS,CS-CIPCCES Cisco Certified<br>
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