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honestly, it depends on the unique error condition which your database
is in. I would not be comfortable making your inference.<br>
<br>
by the way, are 'read receipts' really necessary when emailing a rather
large list?<br>
<br>
/wes<br>
<br>
On Friday, April 24, 2009 4:51:24 PM, Bob Fronk
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bob@btrfronk.com"><bob@btrfronk.com></a> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Although
I have a backup scheduled every night, I ran a backup manually before I
attempt
to restart the call manager. The backup completed successfully.
Would a backup complete if the DB was hung?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Still
think I will need to restart, but just trying to avoid it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bob
Fronk<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
Wes Sisk [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">mailto:wsisk@cisco.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2009 4:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Fronk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dennis Heim; Bill Talley; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager - Control Center pages
fail to
load<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">You are headed for at least a server reboot.
Might be
a good time to open a Cisco TAC case to get some formal investigation
going on.<br>
<br>
At this point the database is likely hung, that is the most common
culprit for
ServM hangs.<br>
Database hangs because of a data processing error or corrupt files on
disk.<br>
<br>
You might want to start downloading the RecoveryCD for your version of
CM just
in case. If you boot from that it will run an fsck to look for errors
in
the file system.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
On Friday, April 24, 2009 3:39:42 PM, Bob Fronk <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bob@btrfronk.com"><bob@btrfronk.com></a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
get "Service Manager is currently busy, please try again in a few
minutes" when I run utils service list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Guess
I am headed for a restart of the whole server?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Being
a Call Manager Noob... what is the best way to perform a restart either
from
CLI or Web Interface?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bob
Fronk</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: windowtext;">
Wes Sisk [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">mailto:wsisk@cisco.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2009 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Fronk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Dennis Heim; Bill Talley; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager - Control Center pages
fail to
load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Your server sounds very unhappy. Is database
running?<br>
from CLI:<br>
utils service list<br>
<br>
is "A Cisco Db" running?<br>
<br>
if not, have you recently changed the IP or hostname of the server?<br>
<br>
/wes<br>
<br>
On Friday, April 24, 2009 1:27:12 PM, Bob Fronk <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bob@btrfronk.com"><bob@btrfronk.com></a>
wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It
is a the Publisher. (Single Call Manager installation here)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bob
Fronk</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Dennis
Heim [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Dennis.Heim@cdw.com">mailto:Dennis.Heim@cdw.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2009 1:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Fronk; Bill Talley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Call Manager - Control Center pages
fail to
load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Is
this your publisher or a subscriber?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dennis
Heim<br>
Network Voice Engineer<br>
CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>
Carmel, IN 46032<br>
<br>
317.569.4255 Office<br>
</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";">317.569.4201
Fax<br>
</span><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">317.694.6070
Cell</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com"
title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.berbee.com/"
title="http://www.berbee.com/">www.berbee.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Fronk<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2009 12:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bill Talley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager - Control Center pages
fail to
load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I
get a " Service Manager is currently busy, please try
again in a few minutes" error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Should
I try to restart the Service Manger Service? What impact will it have
on
my users?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Bob
Fronk</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Bill
Talley [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:btalley@gmail.com">mailto:btalley@gmail.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 24, 2009 12:44 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Fronk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call Manager - Control Center pages
fail to
load</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">You can also login to the console, or via ssh
and
execute the command 'utils services list page'. Format may be off, but
I
believe that is the general format. You can use the '?' after 'utils
services' for additional info on starting/restarting individual
services.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">HTH<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Bill<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Bob Fronk <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bob@btrfronk.com">bob@btrfronk.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p>When I go to the Unified Serviceability and select "Tools -
Control
Center - Network Services" (and Featured services) the "loading
please wait" pops up, but them times out after several minutes and
gives a
"Connection to the Server cannot be established - unknown error"<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Is there a way to get around this without restarting the whole
Call Manager?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Thanks for helping a Call Manager noob<o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><b>Bob Fronk</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
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