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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This is about the same pricing
that BellSouth (now AT&T) charges in the USA SouthEast. Customer’s buy
Emergency Responder without budgeting for the monthly reoccurring charges.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>AT&T also offers pin-point. You
login to website with RSA Key Fob to update PS-ALI. Does same thing as CER
but isn’t dynamic.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Average corporate customers don’t
allow an end-user to pick up a IP phone or PC and move it to another street
address. Usually has more to do with managing IT assets (so computers/phone’s
don’t disappear). The company usually packs your cube and has IT relocate your
equipment for you. They also come by every month or so with a barcode scanner
and scan your cube. A 30,000 employee company can “lose” $200,000-300,000 a
month in assets if they don’t do a good job tracking it. A nice ergo chair in
a bank office costs $500 and has an asset barcode on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2009 12:41 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jonathan Madziarczyk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] E-911 setup ERL information<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>In the interest of sharing, PSALI service from Canada is about
$2000 for installation and $250/mo for the first 500 records.<br>
<br>
It's definitely something you'll need to budget for.<br>
<br>
YMMV<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Jonathan Madziarczyk" <JMad@cityofevanston.org><br>
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:31:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] E-911 setup ERL information<br>
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>MSAG (Master Street Address Guide) it’s just a database of
street addresses that the PSAP uses to identify locations. You are
correct, the PSAP doesn’t really need to be a part of your E911 until the time
comes around to actually test and confirm that what you think you are sending
them is accurate. Though it never hurts to show them what you’re planning
(especially with a large campus) and see if they have any input that would help
them get their emergency services to the exact locations.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I know AT&T uses Intrado in Illinois to manage their MSAG and
ANI/ALI.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Lelio is correct, you need to go to your Telco and find out how you
can manage your ANI/ALI info. They already have your ANIs (numbers) they
just need you to tied that to your ALI (location). There’s always a cost
associated to this and they will provide you with the correct syntax for your
output to their database.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Depending on how big your campus is, it may be easier to just
manually change your ANI/ALI info instead of trying to get CER to export it.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Let us know how it goes.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Voice Noob<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2009 11:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] E-911 setup ERL information</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I don’t think I need this PSALI you
are talking about. I just need to send a different DID number outbound for each
ERL. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> Lelio Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2009 10:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] E-911 setup ERL information</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>As far as I know, E911
information is given to the Telco, not the PSAP. The PSAP rarely wants to hear
from you. Even testing is getting to be a bit of an issue in metropolitan
areas.<br>
<br>
You have to get a PSALI type service from your provider. This costs money and
allows you to update the records for the DIDs you have purchased. In Canada
anyways.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob@gmail.com><br>
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:10:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] E-911 setup ERL information</span><span style='color:
black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>CUCM 7.x with Emergency Responder
7.x. I have all of the translations and locations setup working
correctly. My problem is with the local PSAP operator. The place I am setting
up is a large campus but the local Telco did not offer PRI’s or CAMA trunks
before this installation. This customer has enough clout locally to get the
Telco to get the equipment so they can have PRI’s because they wanted to
implement E-911 to the police even though there is no law requiring it
yet. Now when I try to export my location information the local PSAP
administrator does not know what to do with it. He states that all of that is
handled by AT&T at the MSAG. I don’t know what MSAG is but it sounds like
that is where I need to go. Does anyone know of a standard way to export
the information that AT&T would accept. I think I have hit a brick wall
locally. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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