<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>...sorry, that should have read: "<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">me</span></span> thinking one thing, saying another. Could have been worse. Just ask Scott V."<br><br>trust me, Scott always says what he thinks. ;)<br><br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>To: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward@cisco.com><br>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com>, "Wes Sisk (wsisk)" <wsisk@cisco.com><br>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:42:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7.1 Upgrade License<br><br><style>p { margin: 0; }</style><link href="/zimbra/css/msgview.css?v=081117021119" rel="stylesheet"><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Thanks Chris. Entitled is the word I was thinking. But "eligible" popped out. Happens all the time, thinking one thing, saying another. Could have been worse. Just ask Scott V.<br><br>...but I digress.<br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward@cisco.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net, "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com>, "Wes Sisk (wsisk)" <wsisk@cisco.com><br>Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 10:28:06 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7.1 Upgrade License<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Not sure if eligible is the right word, I think Cisco uses “Entitled”.
But the concept is the same. Based on your contract, you may or may not be
allowed to download the new major version, but even if you are entitled and
download it, without the licenses for the new major version, you are SOL anyway.
So yes, there are two pieces involved.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Lelio Fulgenzi
[mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 12, 2009 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Ward (chrward)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net; Jonathan Charles; Wes Sisk (wsisk)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7.1 Upgrade License</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Is is correct in stating that there's a difference between
"licensing" and "eligibility" ?<br>
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Licensing is what you need to make the systems go, i.e. installing things.<br>
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Eligibility is whether you're allowed to download the software.<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Chris Ward (chrward)" <chrward@cisco.com><br>
To: "Jonathan Charles" <jonvoip@gmail.com>, "Wes Sisk
(wsisk)" <wsisk@cisco.com><br>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:52:46 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7.1 Upgrade License<br>
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Cisco (so far) is only requiring new licenses when moving to a different major
versions where the model is MAJOR.MINOR.MAINTENANCE (I.E. 7.1.2) so an upgrade
from 7.0.2 to 7.1.2 will not require new licensing since the major release is
the same.<br>
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-Chris<br>
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From: cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles<br>
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:19 AM<br>
To: Wes Sisk (wsisk)<br>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 7.1 Upgrade License<br>
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What????<br>
<br>
So, if I am licensed for CUCM 7.0, I need a new license for 7.1???<br>
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Please tell me you are kidding.<br>
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<br>
J<br>
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On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Wes Sisk<wsisk@cisco.com> wrote:<br>
> Yes, you will need to obtain a 'software feature license'. This
should be<br>
> trivial when you place order through the Product Upgrade Tool (PUT):<br>
> http://tools.cisco.com/gct/Upgrade/jsp/productUpgrade.jsp<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Wes<br>
><br>
> On Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:31:51 PM, Jeff <jeffeloy@yahoo.com>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> Last year we upgraded from CallManager 4.1(3) to CM 7.0. I have
since<br>
> patched it to (I think) versions 7.0.1 and 7.0.2. Now, we'd like to
upgrade<br>
> to 7.1. Do I need to obtain a software license from Cisco for 7.1
before<br>
> running the upgrade? Not sure if that's considered a "major"
upgrade or<br>
> not.<br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
><br>
> Jeff<br>
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