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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Cem,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>All you need to do is add Time Schedules to your partitions (except
for the partition that the IP phones are in) to have them disable at 18:30 or
19:00 and have them re-enable at whatever time in the morning.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For example you would want to put Time Schedules on all the
partitions that contain the route patterns used for outgoing external calls. I
think ToD routing is exactly what you are looking for.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just to make sure we are clear on the CSS – Partition definition
and operation:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-A partition contains a list of DNs or callable numbers
including route patterns<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-A CSS is a list of partitions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-A CSS is used to identify which partitions a device with a
certain CSS can reach<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Example:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone A has DN 1000 and is in partition “PartA”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone B has DN 2000 and is in partition “PartB”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone C has DN 2001 and is also in partition “PartB”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>CSS “cssA” contains partition “PartA”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>CSS “cssB” contains partitions “PartA”
and “PartB”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone A is assigned CSS “cssB”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone B is assigned CSS “cssA”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone C has no CSS assigned<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone A can call ALL numbers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone B can only call Phone A<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Phone C cannot call anyone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>HTH<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cem caglayan
[mailto:cem.caglayan@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 18, 2009 4:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Ward (chrward)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ryan Ratliff (rratliff); cisco-voip Voip<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 6.0 Calling Search Space issue...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>As i described, i could not
find any other option except changing CSS. I'm not expert on this topic but as
i figured out, CSS contains partitions and partitions contains route patterns.
So if formulized in a cluster, the issue seems like this: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>CSS>partition>route pattern. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
So all of our phones' dial rules (route patterns in other words) are described
into CSS which are selected in DN settings.<br>
<br>
I looked at Class of Control but i could not find anything.<br>
<br>
Let me explain my situation again, maybe there are some other ways to solve
this issue.<br>
<br>
When our shift ends at work (it's about 18:30), i would like to block all the
phones' outgoing calls except interior. In other words, after a specified time
of day (let's call it 19:00), only interior calls have to be made. If you read
my older posts, our phones are not in partitions, just CSS describes their
calling ability. I'm going to put some pictures of the CM when i get back to
work, maybe the issue could be understood easier.<br>
<br>
thanks in advance.<br>
CEM<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Chris Ward (chrward) <<a
href="mailto:chrward@cisco.com">chrward@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I saw a response early in this thread that was not directly
replied to.<br>
Why won't Time of Day routing fulfill your requirements?<br>
<span style='color:#888888'><br>
-Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
On Behalf Of Ryan Ratliff<br>
(rratliff)<br>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:40 AM<br>
To: cem caglayan<br>
Cc: cisco-voip Voip<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 6.0 Calling Search Space issue...<br>
<br>
If you truly want to change all phones' CSS to None and back to their<br>
original value on a scheduled basis you would have to script this via<br>
AXL. You would need to first discover all the lines and note their<br>
current CSS. Then update all of those lines to use CSS None. When<br>
it comes time to revert you change the CSS back to the value you<br>
discovered (and stored) originally.<br>
<br>
As Lelio said if you can provide more details about the policy you<br>
are trying to implement there is a very good chance it can be done in<br>
a way that doesn't require changing all of your phone configurations<br>
each night.<br>
<br>
-Ryan<br>
<br>
On Jun 18, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:<br>
<br>
I think you'll find yourself in a mess of trouble trying to do it by<br>
changing the calling search space. The timed based partitions is<br>
probably your best bet.<br>
<br>
Remember, the partition the phone is in has nothing to do with the<br>
partitions it can reach.<br>
<br>
Please explain your set up a bit more for us, and we'll try to help<br>
with suggestions using time based partitions. I haven't used them<br>
much, but it's fairly easy from what I recall.<br>
<br>
The one thing I always forget is when the <none> partition is<br>
searched. I can't remember if it is searched after all the other<br>
partitions only if no other match is found, or if it is searched in<br>
order and best match rules apply.<br>
<br>
For the long term sanity of your setup, I'd strongly suggest moving<br>
your DNs to a partition. It's easier to manage things like that.<br>
<br>
You'll also have to let us know what you are trying to block, access<br>
to phones or access to off-net? And what dial plan strategy are you<br>
using? allow with device and block with DN, or just allow with device?<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Michael Back" <<a href="mailto:Michael.Back@nisd.net">Michael.Back@nisd.net</a>><br>
To: "Daniel" <<a href="mailto:dan.voip@danofive.id.au">dan.voip@danofive.id.au</a>>,
"cem caglayan"<br>
<<a href="mailto:cem.caglayan@gmail.com">cem.caglayan@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 8:27:11 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUCM 6.0 Calling Search Space issue...<br>
<br>
You could try extension mobility. Make sure the phone CSS is most<br>
restrictive, and put the appropriate CSS on the line like you are<br>
currently doing. You can set a timer for Extension Mobility to log out<br>
after a specified period.<br>
<br>
MB<br>
<br>
>>> cem caglayan <<a href="mailto:cem.caglayan@gmail.com">cem.caglayan@gmail.com</a>>
6/18/2009 5:55 AM >>><br>
First of all thanks for the tip Dan,<br>
<br>
The main problem is, we do not have any partitions which all the<br>
phones<br>
assigned to..<br>
<br>
Our dial rules are described in "Calling Search Spaces" which consist
4<br>
or<br>
more partitions. Besides, all the phones' Calling Search Spaces are<br>
setted<br>
into the directory number configuration. I've found how to change all<br>
the<br>
phones' Calling Search Spaces to the desired value under the "Bulk<br>
Administration>Phones>Add/Update Lines>Update Lines" section.<br>
<br>
But the main problem is, we have 3 PRI lines and 12 GSM lines connected<br>
to<br>
CM via PRI by 2N Stargate. And as i described, all the phones' Calling<br>
Search Spaces are not the same at all. For example my phone can call<br>
GSM and<br>
landlines, but my manager's can call international including my dial<br>
rule.<br>
My Calling Search Space is "Landlines and GSM" but my manager's<br>
"International Calls (which means everywhere can be called)".<br>
<br>
So in brief, the problem is when i set all these phones' calling<br>
search<br>
space to NONE on a scheduled job. How can i restore them to their<br>
original<br>
values??<br>
<br>
By the way i have found to backup all the phone settings under "Bulk<br>
Administration>Phones>Export Phones>All Details". But it stores
the<br>
data in<br>
a TXT file. So i can not restore from that backup.<br>
<br>
Is there any way to fullfill according to my CUCM 6.0 profile???<br>
<br>
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Daniel <<a
href="mailto:dan.voip@danofive.id.au">dan.voip@danofive.id.au</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> Have you looked into time periods and schedules?<br>
><br>
> Apply a time schedule to a partition to allow access only during a<br>
certain<br>
> time period.<br>
><br>
> cheers,<br>
><br>
> Dan<br>
><br>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 4:16 PM, cem caglayan<br>
<<a href="mailto:cem.caglayan@gmail.com">cem.caglayan@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> I want to set some (about 300) users' calling search space to be
set<br>
to<br>
>> "none" after shift and bring them to their original
values in the<br>
>> morning,because of company policy. Is there any way to do this<br>
automatically<br>
>> or can this action be scheduled? Because, as you know, it is
very<br>
difficult<br>
>> to set all these users' settings to desired one and bring them
back<br>
to old<br>
>> values. I looked at some features including Job scheduler and<br>
Enterprise<br>
>> settings but no use.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Thanks in advance.<br>
>><br>
>> Cem<br>
>><br>
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