<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>That's correct, if I were populate calling name ID, it would make it out as I set it to 99% of Canadian telephones because it's what _I_ populated it with. If the call were to terminate in the U.S., it would be a crap shoot, and basically be a lookup from the number I provide.<br><br>So in Canada, I guess, calling name and number don't always have to match.<br><br>The following lists the carriers in Canada. But these are probably more than just LECs and CLECs, it probably lists long distance carriers as well.<br><br>http://www.cnac.ca/data/CIC_List.htm<br><br><br><br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Carlos Ortiz" <COrtiz@sscincorporated.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>Cc: "Cisco-VoIP PuckNetherNet" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:26:45 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Caller ID clarification<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Yeah - I meant if you send out “UOG – Test” from your phone
would it actually make it all the way through to the destination. From my
understanding it’s not reliable in the US since the call usually passes through
multiple carriers and some of the information is not passed along. Therefore
we use this Local LEC database? You said that in Canada it’s determined by
calling party. The only way for it to make it to the destination would be if
the information is passed from carrier to carrier. How many different ones are
there in Canada?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Lelio Fulgenzi
[mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carlos Ortiz<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco-VoIP PuckNetherNet<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Caller ID clarification</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">If we were to turn on outbound
caller ID, the internal callerID name configured on the phone would be sent to
any Canadian carrier. <br>
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Not sure if that's what you were asking.<br>
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Apparently, w/ v7 and higher, there is an "ASCII" call display
configuration on the DN that is used for PSTN outbound CallingID so it can be
different than internal display. Haven't tested that in the least though.<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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From: "Carlos Ortiz" <COrtiz@sscincorporated.com><br>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
Cc: "Cisco-VoIP PuckNetherNet" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 2:00:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Caller ID clarification</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think the problem in the US is that the information is
not passed from carrier to carrier consistently if at all. Therefore if a
LEC doesn’t update its database you just get the same old information.
Does the NAME and CID Number get propagated from you Call Mgr other to other
carriers?</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"> Lelio
Fulgenzi [mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:23 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Carlos Ortiz<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Cisco-VoIP PuckNetherNet<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Caller ID clarification</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">In my
bit of investigation, it's the called party's LEC that does the database lookup
for the CallerID in the U.S. In Canada, it's up to the calling party to fill
that information in. Not sure why the difference exists.<br>
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Basically, it's whomever updates the white pages last, or something like that.
Good luck getting it working properly.<br>
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We have a hamburger franchise on campus and for the longest time, calls from
our campus to the states were coming up as this hamburger franchise. Not sure
how it got fixed, but it eventually sorted itself out. Likely because we
updated the white pages.<br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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From: "Carlos Ortiz" <COrtiz@sscincorporated.com><br>
To: "Cisco-VoIP PuckNetherNet" <cisco-voip@puck.nether.net><br>
Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 10:35:21 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Caller ID clarification<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">We have a business unit that wants to send out a different
caller ID name (ABC Company) from their location. According to ATT who is
the PRI provider, they will accept whatever we send to them. I have a
couple of questions:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">1)</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Can
this be done with CCM 4.1.3 and H.323 gateways? (if so - where do I configure)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="text-indent: -0.25in;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">2)</span><span style="font-size: 7pt; color: black;"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">From
previously looking into this I understand that Caller ID at a residence is
determined by a database lookup by the Local LEC. If that’s true,
how could I get this database updated nationwide so that when we call our
clients (all over the US) they get the name ABC company instead of the generic
“Shelton, CT”.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Thanks,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="color: black;">Carlos</span></p>
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