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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515255719-20072009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>You don't have to modify the CUCM TFTP, you can have a
local "load server" which can be your branch router or whatever you
have.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515255719-20072009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515255719-20072009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>The other thing you can do is peer firmware sharing, this
you can also enable in 4.x if you have upgraded your device
packs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515255719-20072009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515255719-20072009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Marton</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Chris Ward
(chrward)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 20, 2009 8:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> wael ahmed
el mezain; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip]
upgrade 2000 phones at 40 branch through the WAN<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">That
is going to take a long time because of the WAN and some phones may even time
out depending on how long.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">You
may want to upgrade the phones to the 7.X firmware version site-by-site (or even
more granular) before the upgrade while you are still running 4.1. Then you can
have a little more control of when and how many phones are upgrading at once and
the phones won’t ALL upgrade after the switch version.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">We
have seen customers in the past also load up local TFTP servers at each remote
site temporarily just to upgrade the phones. Then point the phones back to the
CUCM TFTP after they are all upgraded. This requires some coordination and in
your case with 40 sites, this is less than desirable. But, something to
consider.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">-Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>wael ahmed el mezain<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, July 20, 2009
2:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [cisco-voip]
upgrade 2000 phones at 40 branch through the
WAN<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">hello,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">I
have client has ccm 4.1 (one Pub - 3 Subs) with about 2000 phones at +40 branch,
and going to upgrade to ccm 7.x<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Most
of the remote sites has 1 MB or less (could be 512 or 384) WAN link to the
HQ.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Is
there any problem if we are going to do the phones upgrade for all the sites at
the same time (after the CCMs upgrades using the DMA
tool)?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">I
used to get the best solution from this group; anyone has any suggestion/idea
for this case to decrease the downtime as much as we can with min
risk?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">Wael
Ahmed<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #444444; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'">CCIE
Voice # 24778</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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