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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Guys, keep in mind from a superficial level that the HP switches
support LLDP. I don’t know, however, how extensive the HP switches
utilizing the LLDP will work and play well in the QoS environement.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>To speak to Noobs comment, it’s only $500, but when a
customer is replacing 100 switches…that can be a deal breaker / maker.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If you’re trying to justify sticking with the Cisco
switches, talk to the Cisco account team for the customer. They will have
people dedicated to proving why the HP switches won’t work and play well
in your environment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If the inverse is true, go to HP and they’ll tell you why
they can do everything the Cisco switches can do (and if they’re REALLY
good…they will tell you what they CAN’T do so that you can position
the deal accordingly…go in armed with info).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Either way, if this is specifically regarding the Ops Manager
product, you’re SOL. The Ops Manager is a Cisco product geared
towards Cisco implementations, you’re not putting in HP OpenView or
something similar that is generic SNMP device monitoring. You’re
putting in a product that is designed to monitor and maximizing your end to end
Cisco Product implementation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just my 2 pennies obviously, but HTH.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Go0se<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2009 11:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Voice Noob'; 'Subhrojyoti Banerjee'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] FW: CUOM supporting HP Procurve - CDP MIBS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Using non Cisco switches with Cisco phones is like having a
Cadillac Escalade with wagon wheels on it instead of tires. It might get you
around but you will have a ton of headaches from the ride.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Later,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Go0se<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://atc.go0se.com">http://atc.go0se.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Voice Noob<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2009 8:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Subhrojyoti Banerjee'; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] FW: CUOM supporting HP Procurve - CDP MIBS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Use cisco switches. Problem solved. The cost is about $500 more
list for a cisco 2960 then the HP equivalent. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Subhrojyoti Banerjee<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 27, 2009 7:19 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] FW: CUOM supporting HP Procurve - CDP MIBS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Hi All,<br>
<br>
I'm not sure if this would be the right forum but thought would try my luck
just in case if someone had some experience or ideas. Customer wants to replace
his Access layer switches with HP ProCurve products. We hope to replace their
edge switches with HP ProCurve 2910al product (or 3500yl alternatively). <br>
<br>
A potential showstopper is Cisco Unified Operations Manager (CUOM) not
supporting ProCurve switches. We need to have it map Cisco VoIP phones to the
switch ports. As far as we could see, the 2910al does support the
Cisco-CDP MIBS and propagates the connected Phones. However we didn’t
manage to get CUOM to support the 2910al in that respect. <br>
<br>
Does anyone know of a workaround for CUOM to support the above products or may
be how it organizes switch support in general (particularly having Cisco IPT's
connected)? <br>
<br>
Thanks in advance,<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Subhrojyoti<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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