<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>I summarized the theory quite a bit. In his presentations, it all makes sense. <br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob@gmail.com><br>To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca>, "Simon Granger" <simon.granger@fmglobal.com><br>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 11:48:29 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Dial Plan<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What do you do if you can’t get
DID numbers at some locations? Sounds like that guy lives in the world of “theory”
. </span><span style="font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Simon Granger<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Dial Plan</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Yeah, not sure about that. Have you ever attended any of the
Frenchman (well, I think Quebecois anyways) Luc Bouchard's dial plan design
sessions?<br>
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I think he goes on to say, for a truly international dial plan, every DN is
going to have the DID number itself as DN. And then you use translations to
access them, just as you said.<br>
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I'd stick with translation patterns like you have. <br>
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Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Simon Granger" <simon.granger@fmglobal.com><br>
To: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:04:38 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Dial Plan<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">We have had Call Manager 6.1 in
place globally. Clusters are based Europe, US and Asia. Our
Global design and dial plan was designed in conjunction with Cisco Advanced
Services 2 years ago.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Essentially all internal numbers
are unique. They consist of 7 digits. This comprises 3 digits for
an internal site code and 4 digits for site extension which is the last 4
digits of the DDI. The design encompasses partitioned addressing
scheme. Internal intersite dialling is accomplished via dialling an
access code of 8 followed by the 7 digit extension number. This works via
translation pattern of translating 8 to 7 digits where the translation pattern
has the access to the partition of the dialled 7 digit extension in another
site. Internal dialing within a site is 4 digits by translation pattern
of 4 to 7 digits of the actual real DN.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">Our re-seller in the US is stating
this is not best practice. They want to change the dial plan so all DN’s
are now 8 digits and not 7 beginning with 8. They want to remove the
Translation pattern and give direct access across all DNs. They state
this change will be good for the future.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">We in Europe are sceptical of such
a change. We believe this removes a lot of the flexibility of the
original dial plan. Also it cause problems if we want to impose any Class
of Restriction. We have also not seen anywhere that this would be best
practice.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">If anyone has any thoughts it
would be most appreciated.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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