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prime example of "nope" in my book. if you're upgrading in this
scenario you are looking for features and fixes. if you go to 6.1.3
and encounter an issue you will have to upgrade to 6.1.4 to get a fix.
if you go to 6.1.4 and encounter an issue then you will receive an
6.1.4 ES which is a "minimal set change" which introduces the fewest
changes. It is the most likely scenario to resolve your issue without
introducing new issues.<br>
<br>
/wes<br>
<br>
On Wednesday, September 02, 2009 10:38:39 AM , Leetun, Rob
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style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net">mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed
Leatherman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:36 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Wes Sisk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">If I were
specifically going
for a particular fix and nothing else, i would prefer the "minimal
set" to try and minimize the risk of introducing a new bug or problem.
That said, if I had a problem and TAC told me I had to upgrade to
6.1.4, I wouldn't
be upset about it.. just wouldn't be my preference. I would grouse
about it
later if I ran into a new bug ;)<br>
<br>
As far as the original post, if it's a new install/upgrade from 4 or 5,
I would
probably load 6.1.4. That said, we're on 6.1.3 right now and don't plan
on
upgrading any further in that 6.x train, next upgrade will be 7.x most
likely
for a time of day routing with unified mobility.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Wes Sisk <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">IMHO this is very critical. If you come to me
for support I
cannot give you a "minimal set" change between where you are and
where the fix is available. You are going to get all of the changes
from
6.1.3 to 6.1.4 in addition to any new fix that is tailored to your
environment.
I may be a bit biased as my business leads me to expect things to be
broken. To that end it appears prudent to get as close as possible to
any
patches that may be necessary.<br>
<br>
I would very much like to hear the positions of others.<br>
<span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
/Wes</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:25:24 AM , Lelio Fulgenzi <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></a>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ah, yes, that's another way to look at it. As
each dot.dot
release is released, the previous likely gets shelved for development.<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Wes Sisk" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com"><wsisk@cisco.com></a><br>
To: "STEVEN CASPER" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com"><SCASPER@mtb.com></a><br>
Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a><br>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:04:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?<br>
<br>
6.1(3) is "done" meaning no more ES will be built for it. If you
upgrade to 6.1.3 and encounter a serious issue Cisco will require you
to
upgrade to 6.1.4 or an engineering special of 6.1.4 to get a fix.<br>
<br>
net: 6.1(4) is the "best" place to be currently.<br>
<br>
/Wes<br>
<br>
On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:18:50 AM , STEVEN CASPER <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com"><SCASPER@mtb.com></a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>I believe 6.1.4 fixes the Denial of Service vulnerabilities recently reported.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Lelio Fulgenzi <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<pre>Not easy, but necessary. Even taking a look at SEV 1/2 bugs should be enough. Also, my understanding is that ES's are no longer what ES's were in the days of 3.x and 4.x (possibly 5.x). They're not built for individual customers like they used to be, but essentially, they are what service packs used to be. Granted they're not published for some reason. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>--- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>From: "Brandon Phelps" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:btphelps@atomicnets.com"><btphelps@atomicnets.com></a> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:00:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>meh, thats easy to do. Looking more for opinions and anecdotes. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Would most people install an ES without having a specific reason for <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>doing so? <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>B <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>I think you'll hear from Cisco TAC over and over, always use the latest <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>version and the latest ES. Nowadays, especially from x.x.3 to x.x.4 it's <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>not feature enhancements but bug fixes mostly. Or so we're told. Take a <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>look at the bug list, see if there are any that stand out and not work <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>for you. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>--- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>From: "Brandon Phelps" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:btphelps@atomicnets.com"><btphelps@atomicnets.com></a> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:35:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Which one is more stable? <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>CUCM 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? <o:p></o:p></pre>
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