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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Greetings,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm on 6.1.2, and I have to upgrade if I'm to patch the DST
problem that will affect lots of my phones. I think I would have
chosen 6.1.3b(SU1) over 6.1.3b.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>However, as to upgrade paths, I think I have my facts
straight. (Feel free to correct me.)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>6.1.2 can go directly to 6.1.3b</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>6.1.2 cannot go directly to 6.1.3b(SU1) or to
6.1.4</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Today I discovered there is a 6.1.4(SU1) out and you CAN go
directly to it from 6.1(2x) says the readme.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>So I think my choice will be 6.1.4(SU1). I'm not
really a "latest and greatest" kind of fellow, but this choice at least keeps my
very stable 6.2.1 version intact on the inactive partition just in case whereas
a "double" upgrade to 6.1.3b(SU1) or 6.1.4 would not.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=568564016-02092009><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>jeff</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Leetun,
Rob<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:39 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ed
Leatherman; Wes Sisk<BR><B>Cc:</B> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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you guys upgrade from 6.1.2 to 6.1.3?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Leetun<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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Engineer<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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CO 80302<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Leatherman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 02, 2009
6:36 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Wes Sisk<BR><B>Cc:</B>
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [cisco-voip] Call for
opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">If I were specifically going for
a particular fix and nothing else, i would prefer the "minimal set" to try and
minimize the risk of introducing a new bug or problem. That said, if I had a
problem and TAC told me I had to upgrade to 6.1.4, I wouldn't be upset about
it.. just wouldn't be my preference. I would grouse about it later if I ran into
a new bug ;)<BR><BR>As far as the original post, if it's a new install/upgrade
from 4 or 5, I would probably load 6.1.4. That said, we're on 6.1.3 right now
and don't plan on upgrading any further in that 6.x train, next upgrade will be
7.x most likely for a time of day routing with unified mobility.<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Wes Sisk <<A
href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com">wsisk@cisco.com</A>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>IMHO this is very critical. If you come to me for support I
cannot give you a "minimal set" change between where you are and where the fix
is available. You are going to get all of the changes from 6.1.3 to 6.1.4
in addition to any new fix that is tailored to your environment. I may be
a bit biased as my business leads me to expect things to be broken. To
that end it appears prudent to get as close as possible to any patches that may
be necessary.<BR><BR>I would very much like to hear the positions of
others.<BR><SPAN style="COLOR: #888888"><BR>/Wes</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><BR><BR>On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:25:24 AM , Lelio
Fulgenzi <A href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></A>
wrote:<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Ah, yes, that's another way to look at it. As each dot.dot
release is released, the previous likely gets shelved for
development.<BR><BR><BR>---<BR>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<BR>Senior Analyst (CCS) *
University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<BR>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519)
767-1060 FAX
(JNHN)<BR>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<BR>"Bad
grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: "Wes Sisk" <A
href="mailto:wsisk@cisco.com"><wsisk@cisco.com></A><BR>To: "STEVEN CASPER"
<A href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com"><SCASPER@mtb.com></A><BR>Cc: <A
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A>, <A
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca">lelio@uoguelph.ca</A><BR>Sent: Tuesday,
September 1, 2009 9:04:59 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<BR>Subject: Re:
[cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4?<BR><BR>6.1(3) is "done" meaning
no more ES will be built for it. If you upgrade to 6.1.3 and encounter a
serious issue Cisco will require you to upgrade to 6.1.4 or an engineering
special of 6.1.4 to get a fix.<BR><BR>net: 6.1(4) is the "best" place to be
currently.<BR><BR>/Wes<BR><BR>On Tuesday, September 01, 2009 6:18:50 AM , STEVEN
CASPER <A href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com"><SCASPER@mtb.com></A>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P><PRE>I believe 6.1.4 fixes the Denial of Service vulnerabilities recently reported.<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>Lelio Fulgenzi <A href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca"><lelio@uoguelph.ca></A> 08/31/09 11:25 PM >>><o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>Not easy, but necessary. Even taking a look at SEV 1/2 bugs should be enough. Also, my understanding is that ES's are no longer what ES's were in the days of 3.x and 4.x (possibly 5.x). They're not built for individual customers like they used to be, but essentially, they are what service packs used to be. Granted they're not published for some reason. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>--- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>From: "Brandon Phelps" <A href="mailto:btphelps@atomicnets.com"><btphelps@atomicnets.com></A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>To: <A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 10:00:28 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>meh, thats easy to do. Looking more for opinions and anecdotes. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>Would most people install an ES without having a specific reason for <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>doing so? <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>B <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>Lelio Fulgenzi wrote: <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt"><PRE>I think you'll hear from Cisco TAC over and over, always use the latest <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>version and the latest ES. Nowadays, especially from x.x.3 to x.x.4 it's <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>not feature enhancements but bug fixes mostly. Or so we're told. Take a <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>look at the bug list, see if there are any that stand out and not work <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>for you. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>--- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1 <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN) <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>From: "Brandon Phelps" <A href="mailto:btphelps@atomicnets.com"><btphelps@atomicnets.com></A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>To: <A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:35:38 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>Subject: [cisco-voip] Call for opinions; 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>Which one is more stable? <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>CUCM 6.1.3 or 6.1.4? <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>cisco-voip mailing list <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="http://portal.mxlogic.com/redir/?5eXz2bObWbNJeXzbxEVLtxcSjDdqymoIToHMd9_7wrwCHIcfBisEeROQGmGncRAIrLRXFLELf6zB5MTsTqlblbCqOmbAaJMJZ0kIToHMd9_7wqrjKVtASyC-yYqenQQjhOrvhdwLQzh0qmXiFqFsPmiNFtd40BFVVEwtH4QglmB2lok11EwsV7Cjh1m9EwsV7C2hKvxYY1NJ4S-rjKUOUqerTopdS9Lq">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>------------------------------------------------------------------------ <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>_______________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>cisco-voip mailing list <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="http://portal.mxlogic.com/redir/?5eXz2bObWbNJeXzbxEVLtxcSjDdqymoIToHMd9_7wrwCHIcfBisEeROQGmGncRAIrLRXFLELf6zB5MTsTqlblbCqOmbAaJMJZ0kIToHMd9_7wqrjKVtASyC-yYqenQQjhOrvhdwLQzh0qmXiFqFsPmiNFtd40BFVVEwtH4QglmB2lok11EwsV7Cjh1m9EwsV7C2hKvxYY1NJcS-rjKUOUqerTopdS9Lq">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE> <o:p></o:p></PRE></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>_______________________________________________ <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>cisco-voip mailing list <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><A href="http://portal.mxlogic.com/redir/?5eXz2bObWbNJeXzbxEVLtxcSjDdqymoIToHMd9_7wrwCHIcfBisEeROQGmGncRAIrLRXFLELf6zB5MTsTqlblbCqOmbAaJMJZ0kIToHMd9_7wqrjKVtASyC-yYqenQQjhOrvhdwLQzh0qmXiFqFsPmiNFtd40BFVVEwtH4QglmB2lok11EwsV7Cjh1m9EwsV7C2hKvxYY1NJAS-rjKUOUqerTopdS9Lq">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</A> <o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE><o:p> </o:p></PRE><PRE>************************************<o:p></o:p></PRE><PRE>This email may contain privileged and/or confidential information that is intended solely for the use of the addressee. 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