<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>They're either going to link to exchange to provide UM or they'll use their PostPath acquisition to deploy their own solution.<br><br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob@gmail.com><br>To: "Nate VanMaren" <VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org>, "Eric Isakson" <eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com>, "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:47:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Guys at some point soon I have to believe that connection will
be just as good as Unity is now with the tie into the exchange store. Everyone
knows how bad integrated is compared to Unified. You have to assume that they
are not going to let MS beat them on this and will have a way that the
voicemails are stored in exchange. I would suggest you evaluate your decision thoroughly
before making a jump like that. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Nate VanMaren
[mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We and BYU both are on Exchange 2007 UM, they migrated from Unity
while we are migrating from Octel.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">The short answer really is,
if you want <i>Unified Messaging</i> you’re only strategic answer is
Microsoft. If you’re ok with <i>Integrated Messaging</i>, then you can
settle for Unity Connection or Unity Express.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’ve had quite a few conversations with people at Cisco about
Unity and Microsoft Exchange UM. Exchange UM surprised everyone that is
was so good it’s first release. And while they may say they are not
abandoning Unity, that doesn’t mean that it will stay or even become current
with features. Just like the 2<sup>nd</sup> Gen IP Phones, the
7940/7960. I believe the main reason these are still sold is because they
would make way too many people upset when they say, oh these are now EOS and
you have 5 years support left for them.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We’re doing Unity Express or connection in the field
because we don’t have local mail stores; and most of these aren’t even doing
integrated messaging they’re just voicemail, because Integrated messaging is so
much harder to deal with than unified messaging.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Just my opinion.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-Nate</span></p>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Voice Noob<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Why is it a bad decision? What would cause you to drop
connection completely? </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Eric Isakson
[mailto:eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’m fairly certain that they announced that Unity 8 will be the
last version of Unity. After that, it will be Unity Connection or Unity
Express. This is what we were told by Cisco reps at a recent Tech Day
here in Utah. Our partners have verified the same.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We see this as a bad decision and will probably result in our
moving to Exchange for voice messaging and such once MS catches up or comes
closer with features.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="EN">Eric
Isakson | Network Engineer | Information Technology Dept. | Ogden Clinic | <u><a href="mailto:eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com" target="_blank">eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com</a></u>
| 801.475.3572</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">I got a similar
"feeling" from a few conferences I attended. They're not going to
discontinue or stop developing Unity, but I think the bulk of effort will be
into Unity Connection. For example, you'll likely see features in Unity
Connection first, then ported to Unity. Of course, none of this can be verified
or confirmed and can change on the drop of a dime, just like other things.<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob@gmail.com><br>
To: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>,
"Cristobal Priego" <cristobalpriego@gmail.com>, "Rossella
Mariotti-Jones" <rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu><br>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:42:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Until they get feature parity with Unity I don’t think they will
stop. </span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cristobal Priego; Rossella Mariotti-Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Unity 8 is coming, there is a beta going on now and per a
post on the NetPro forums it will have new features</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: black;">Matthew Loraditch</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: black;"><br>
1965 Greenspring Drive</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; color: black;"> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cristobal
Priego<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rossella Mariotti-Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black;">as
far as I know the development for Unity is going to stop with version 7.X . all
the efforts are focused on unity connection<br>
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maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i know. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black;">2009/9/11 Rossella Mariotti-Jones
<<a href="mailto:rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu" target="_blank">rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu</a>></span></p>
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<p><span style="color: black;">Currently we use Microsoft Exchange 2003 with
Cisco Unity version 5.0(1) and there is talk in our organization to upgrade to
Exchange 2010 next year, I see Unity 7 supports Exchange 2007 but I can’t find
anything about Exchange 2010, is this possible? Does anyone know anything about
it? Thanks in advance.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: black;">rossella</span><span style="color: black;"></span></p>
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