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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I agree on the apps. I have posted before on what a joke the CUPC
client is compared to OCS and if anyone has tried to implement CUCIMOC that is
not much better from an administration standpoint.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You have visual voicemail with connection. I think it works
great on my IP phone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>VMO is a joke.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nate VanMaren
[mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But Cisco will never be able to beat Microsoft on the desktop
apps integration. VMO is a joke, doesn’t work in the preview pane.
And trying to use OWA for listening to voicemail that’s not a fun one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Where Cisco really could have pushed the issue is visual
voicemail. But the only BU that did anything with that was ARTG with Unity
Express. They do have the midlet voicemail coming/here but I haven’t seen
it yet.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Now the whole OCS/Enterprise voice joke is really bad. I
will keep Cisco call control/phones for a very long time, but this is one of
the major benefits of IP Phone systems being able to hook in other vendors.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Voice Noob
[mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:48 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Nate VanMaren; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Guys at some point soon I have to believe that connection will
be just as good as Unity is now with the tie into the exchange store. Everyone knows
how bad integrated is compared to Unified. You have to assume that they are not
going to let MS beat them on this and will have a way that the voicemails are
stored in exchange. I would suggest you evaluate your decision thoroughly
before making a jump like that. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Nate VanMaren
[mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We and BYU both are on Exchange 2007 UM, they migrated from
Unity while we are migrating from Octel.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The short answer really is,
if you want <i>Unified Messaging</i> you’re only strategic answer is
Microsoft. If you’re ok with <i>Integrated Messaging</i>, then you can
settle for Unity Connection or Unity Express.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ve had quite a few conversations with people at Cisco about
Unity and Microsoft Exchange UM. Exchange UM surprised everyone that is
was so good it’s first release. And while they may say they are not
abandoning Unity, that doesn’t mean that it will stay or even become current
with features. Just like the 2<sup>nd</sup> Gen IP Phones, the
7940/7960. I believe the main reason these are still sold is because they
would make way too many people upset when they say, oh these are now EOS and
you have 5 years support left for them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We’re doing Unity Express or connection in the field
because we don’t have local mail stores; and most of these aren’t even doing
integrated messaging they’re just voicemail, because Integrated messaging is so
much harder to deal with than unified messaging.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just my opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Nate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Voice Noob<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Why is it a bad decision? What would cause you to drop
connection completely? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Eric Isakson
[mailto:eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m fairly certain that they announced that Unity 8 will be the
last version of Unity. After that, it will be Unity Connection or Unity
Express. This is what we were told by Cisco reps at a recent Tech Day
here in Utah. Our partners have verified the same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>We see this as a bad decision and will probably result in our
moving to Exchange for voice messaging and such once MS catches up or comes
closer with features.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Eric
Isakson | Network Engineer | Information Technology Dept. | Ogden Clinic | <u><a
href="mailto:eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com">eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com</a></u>
| 801.475.3572<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I got a similar
"feeling" from a few conferences I attended. They're not going to
discontinue or stop developing Unity, but I think the bulk of effort will be
into Unity Connection. For example, you'll likely see features in Unity
Connection first, then ported to Unity. Of course, none of this can be verified
or confirmed and can change on the drop of a dime, just like other things.<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob@gmail.com><br>
To: "Matthew Loraditch" <MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com>,
"Cristobal Priego" <cristobalpriego@gmail.com>, "Rossella
Mariotti-Jones" <rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu><br>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:42:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Until they get feature parity with Unity I don’t think they will
stop. </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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border-color:-moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color'>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew
Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cristobal Priego; Rossella Mariotti-Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Unity 8 is coming, there is a beta going on now and per a
post on the NetPro forums it will have new features</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:black'>Matthew Loraditch</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
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color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Cristobal
Priego<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rossella Mariotti-Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>as
far as I know the development for Unity is going to stop with version 7.X . all
the efforts are focused on unity connection<br>
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maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i know. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>2009/9/11 Rossella Mariotti-Jones
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<p><span style='color:black'>Currently we use Microsoft Exchange 2003 with
Cisco Unity version 5.0(1) and there is talk in our organization to upgrade to
Exchange 2010 next year, I see Unity 7 supports Exchange 2007 but I can’t find anything
about Exchange 2010, is this possible? Does anyone know anything about it?
Thanks in advance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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