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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Scott, would MWI work with Exchange 7 or would you need a third
party app to make it work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>What kind of support contract do you have with MS? As far as my
group knows here every time we had trouble and we had to call it was for a fee
and the tech support wasn’t the best either, with Cisco we have 24x7 and
matters do get resolved quickly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>rossella mariotti-jones | network analyst | chemeketa community
college | rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu | 503-589-7775<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 14, 2009 1:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>We are also evaluating jumping ship from Unity UM to
Exchange 2k7. The smartnet + UCCS subscriptions are to much......... for
a product (Voice Mail) that shouldn't cost 1/2 what it does.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I had a conversation with the Unity PM and BU about
it......... I don't think they knew what to say.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>with a SLA from M$ it doesn't make sense to stay with ci$co
for UM. and if exchange 2k10 has call handlers.......... we will move no
question.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Scott<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Voice Noob <<a
href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Guys at some point soon I have
to believe that connection will be just as good as Unity is now with the tie
into the exchange store. Everyone knows how bad integrated is compared to
Unified. You have to assume that they are not going to let MS beat them on this
and will have a way that the voicemails are stored in exchange. I would suggest
you evaluate your decision thoroughly before making a jump like that. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> Nate VanMaren [mailto:<a href="mailto:VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org"
target="_blank">VanMarenNP@ldschurch.org</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob; 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange
2010<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We and BYU both are on Exchange
2007 UM, they migrated from Unity while we are migrating from Octel.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The
short answer really is, if you want <i>Unified Messaging</i> you’re only
strategic answer is Microsoft. If you’re ok with <i>Integrated Messaging</i>,
then you can settle for Unity Connection or Unity Express.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’ve had quite a few
conversations with people at Cisco about Unity and Microsoft Exchange UM.
Exchange UM surprised everyone that is was so good it’s first release.
And while they may say they are not abandoning Unity, that doesn’t mean that it
will stay or even become current with features. Just like the 2<sup>nd</sup>
Gen IP Phones, the 7940/7960. I believe the main reason these are still
sold is because they would make way too many people upset when they say, oh
these are now EOS and you have 5 years support left for them.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We’re doing Unity Express
or connection in the field because we don’t have local mail stores; and
most of these aren’t even doing integrated messaging they’re just voicemail,
because Integrated messaging is so much harder to deal with than unified
messaging.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Just my opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>-Nate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Voice Noob<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:30 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Eric Isakson'; 'Lelio Fulgenzi'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Why is it a bad decision? What
would cause you to drop connection completely? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> Eric Isakson [mailto:<a href="mailto:eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com"
target="_blank">eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 3:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Lelio Fulgenzi; Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I’m fairly certain that they
announced that Unity 8 will be the last version of Unity. After that, it
will be Unity Connection or Unity Express. This is what we were told by
Cisco reps at a recent Tech Day here in Utah. Our partners have verified
the same.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>We see this as a bad decision
and will probably result in our moving to Exchange for voice messaging and such
once MS catches up or comes closer with features.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Eric Isakson | Network
Engineer | Information Technology Dept. | Ogden Clinic | <u><a
href="mailto:eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com" target="_blank">eric.isakson@ogdenclinic.com</a></u>
| 801.475.3572</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I
got a similar "feeling" from a few conferences I attended. They're
not going to discontinue or stop developing Unity, but I think the bulk of
effort will be into Unity Connection. For example, you'll likely see features
in Unity Connection first, then ported to Unity. Of course, none of this can be
verified or confirmed and can change on the drop of a dime, just like other
things.<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Voice Noob" <<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com"
target="_blank">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Matthew Loraditch" <<a
href="mailto:MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com" target="_blank">MLoraditch@heliontechnologies.com</a>>,
"Cristobal Priego" <<a href="mailto:cristobalpriego@gmail.com"
target="_blank">cristobalpriego@gmail.com</a>>, "Rossella
Mariotti-Jones" <<a href="mailto:rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu"
target="_blank">rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 2:42:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Until they get feature parity
with Unity I don’t think they will stop. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Loraditch<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 1:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cristobal Priego; Rossella Mariotti-Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Unity 8 is coming, there
is a beta going on now and per a post on the NetPro forums it will have
new features</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Cristobal Priego<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 11, 2009 2:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rossella Mariotti-Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Unity 5.0.1 and Exchange 2010</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>as far as I know the
development for Unity is going to stop with version 7.X . all the efforts are
focused on unity connection<br>
<br>
maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i know. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='color:black'>2009/9/11 Rossella Mariotti-Jones <<a
href="mailto:rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu" target="_blank">rossella.mariotti.jones@chemeketa.edu</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style='color:black'>Currently we use Microsoft Exchange 2003 with
Cisco Unity version 5.0(1) and there is talk in our organization to upgrade to
Exchange 2010 next year, I see Unity 7 supports Exchange 2007 but I can’t find
anything about Exchange 2010, is this possible? Does anyone know anything about
it? Thanks in advance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.5pt;color:black'>rossella</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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