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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You are correct on the upgrades Vs. UCSS it will not be cheaper
unless you go out about three years. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Lelio Fulgenzi
[mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2009 2:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Voice Noob<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Scott Voll; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>There was an FAQ out there that I either read from this list
and/or posted to the list. Basically, it says that future upgrades will cost
the same as purchasing new. I think Cisco is trying to make it hard for you to
say no to UCSS. <br>
<br>
Basically, the cost of an upgrade will be the same as two years of UCSS or
something like that.<br>
<br>
I think they're also trying to make CUWL very attractive as well. Soon, I don't
think we'll have any option. First they'll make it ridiculously expensive then
they'll retire the option since no one is getting it. It will either be CUWL w/
UCSS or buy new each time.<br>
<br>
Back to PBX days. ;)<br>
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<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
&quot;Bad grammar makes me [sic]&quot; - Tshirt<br>
<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Voice Noob&quot; &lt;voicenoob@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: &quot;Scott Voll&quot; &lt;svoll.voip@gmail.com&gt;,
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:46:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Would you drop just UCCS or ESW as well? </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2009 2:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Historically I've been a X.1
release kind of guy as I have been nailed on some X.0 releases (UCCx 4.0 --
23hr upgrade).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>But since Cm went to the appliance
model, are there the same fears of moving to a 8.0 release so long as it's a
8.0.3 type release?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>&lt;Cisco guys plug your ears&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I'm thinking since I have
subscription and smartnet getting onto the 8.x train and then not subscribing
next year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>what are others thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>&lt;OK you can unplug your
ears&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='color:black'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM,
Lelio Fulgenzi &lt;<a href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Last I heard was they were looking at 18 months between major
versions. So, if v7.0 was out last summer, then you're looking at sometime in
Jan 2010 for v8 (of CUCM anyways). I don't thing the .1 releases are as tightly
controlled.<br>
<br>
There was an EFT for Connection 8.0 not to long ago, and it's typically 6 to 8
months between EFT and release. So that would coincide with a Jan-Apr release
of v8.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
&quot;Bad grammar makes me [sic]&quot; - Tshirt</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:black'><br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;Scott Voll&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com"
target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent: Monday, September 28,
2009 2:59:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Any idea when CM 8.0 is supposed to be out? &nbsp;what about 8.1?
&nbsp;</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>I'm just planning my next upgrade?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Has anyone heard about when UCCx 8.0 is supposed to be out? &nbsp;</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Scott</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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