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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I haven’t worked with asterisk in a while, but we had addressed all
the issues below through programming a solution. I believe at least some of the
stuff developed here was incorporated into the mainline. The problem was there
were a lot of features that cisco has that asterisk couldn’t support (SLA).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lelio Fulgenzi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2009 3:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott Voll<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>I think there are others who will look at asterisk as well once it
fixes up a few things:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'>scalability<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'>redundancy/reliability<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'>user interface<o:p></o:p></span></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"'>forwarding from secondary lines. no, wait, that
works. nevermind.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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color:black'><br>
<br>
---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Scott Voll" <svoll.voip@gmail.com><br>
To: "Lelio Fulgenzi" <lelio@uoguelph.ca><br>
Cc: "Voice Noob" <voicenoob@gmail.com>,
cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:56:05 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<br>
<br>
It will be interesting to see how VoIP continues to evolve in Oregon. K12
got together about a month ago to talk about how we could all move to Asterisk.
I wasn't very interested at the time, but if Cisco continues to
out price there stuff, it will force the issue. Just like moving from
Unity to exchange.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Cisco can either look at pricing....... or look at customers
leaving.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>There was an FAQ out there that I either read from this list
and/or posted to the list. Basically, it says that future upgrades will cost
the same as purchasing new. I think Cisco is trying to make it hard for you to
say no to UCSS. <br>
<br>
Basically, the cost of an upgrade will be the same as two years of UCSS or
something like that.<br>
<br>
I think they're also trying to make CUWL very attractive as well. Soon, I don't
think we'll have any option. First they'll make it ridiculously expensive then
they'll retire the option since no one is getting it. It will either be CUWL w/
UCSS or buy new each time.<br>
<br>
Back to PBX days. ;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br>
<br>
<br>
----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>From: "Voice Noob"
<<a href="mailto:voicenoob@gmail.com" target="_blank">voicenoob@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com"
target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>>, <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 3:46:52 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Would
you drop just UCCS or ESW as well? </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net"
target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a> [mailto:<a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Scott Voll<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 28, 2009 2:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Historically
I've been a X.1 release kind of guy as I have been nailed on some X.0 releases
(UCCx 4.0 -- 23hr upgrade).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>But
since Cm went to the appliance model, are there the same fears of moving to a
8.0 release so long as it's a 8.0.3 type release?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><Cisco
guys plug your ears><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm
thinking since I have subscription and smartnet getting onto the 8.x train and
then not subscribing next year.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>what
are others thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><OK
you can unplug your ears><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>On
Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <<a
href="mailto:lelio@uoguelph.ca" target="_blank">lelio@uoguelph.ca</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Last
I heard was they were looking at 18 months between major versions. So, if v7.0
was out last summer, then you're looking at sometime in Jan 2010 for v8 (of
CUCM anyways). I don't thing the .1 releases are as tightly controlled.<br>
<br>
There was an EFT for Connection 8.0 not to long ago, and it's typically 6 to 8
months between EFT and release. So that would coincide with a Jan-Apr release
of v8.<br>
<br>
<br>
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---<br>
Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>
Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>
(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>
"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Scott Voll" <<a href="mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com"
target="_blank">svoll.voip@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 2:59:22 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada
Eastern<br>
Subject: [cisco-voip] CM 8.0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Any
idea when CM 8.0 is supposed to be out? what about 8.1? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>I'm
just planning my next upgrade?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Has
anyone heard about when UCCx 8.0 is supposed to be out? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Scott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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