<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>I think the other 'bad' thing about CAC is that if you have two links, one primary and one backup, CAC has no idea to lower the number of calls. <br><br>I _think_ RSVP is supposed to fix that but is very complex. Sorta like tax law.<br><br><br>---<br>Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A.<br>Senior Analyst (CCS) * University of Guelph * Guelph, Ontario N1G 2W1<br>(519) 824-4120 x56354 (519) 767-1060 FAX (JNHN)<br>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^<br>"Bad grammar makes me [sic]" - Tshirt<br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Dennis Heim" <Dennis.Heim@cdw.com><br>To: "Matt Slaga (US)" <Matt.Slaga@us.didata.com>, "STEVEN CASPER" <SCASPER@mtb.com>, "Tanner Ezell" <tanner.ezell@gmail.com><br>Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 2:41:04 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Location Question<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">CallManager Locations based CAC and Network QoS are like 2 ships
passing in the night. They know nothing about each other, but your end users
will let you know if they don’t match.. </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">J</span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dennis
Heim<br>
Network Voice Engineer<br>
CDW Advanced Technology Services<br>
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>
Carmel, IN 46032<br>
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317.569.4255 Office<br>
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">317.569.4201 Fax<br>
</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">317.694.6070 Cell</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><a href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com" target="_blank">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> STEVEN CASPER; Tanner Ezell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Location Question</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">It is calculated as 24 per call for locations. 240 in a
locations should get you 10 calls. It does not calculate header
compression ratios or anything like that, just simple math. Same as
gatekeepers. You can watch the locations numbers in the RTM.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>STEVEN CASPER<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tanner Ezell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Location Question</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">You are way off base on your reply, since my question
references the help screen here is a snippet from the help screen:</p>
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<li class="MsoNormal" style="">G.729 call uses 24 kbps.</li>
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<p><a name="1051148"></a><strong>Note : </strong>Each call comprises two call
streams. To improve audio quality, lower the bandwidth setting, so fewer
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now of course 240 divided by 24 = 10. I am curious about the
"Each call comprises two call streams". So is it 240 dived by 24 or 240
divided by 48. I would assume by 24 but why the comment about the two call
streams then?</p>
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>>> Tanner Ezell <tanner.ezell@gmail.com> 10/9/2009 12:52 PM
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Funny, I remember seeing this question on a Cisco exam.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Two things,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) It's a bad idea to ask questions off an exam here</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) If you don't know that a G.729 call consumes about 24kbps
in bandwidth, you should try harder.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Cheers.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, STEVEN CASPER <<a href="mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com" target="_blank">SCASPER@mtb.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">This
is a simple question I think but I want to make sure I understand what I am
reading under the Location Configuration Settings Help Screen:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">I
have a location with 240kb of bandwidth designated - how may g729 calls will
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">Steve</span></p>
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