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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>You will also want to run some monitoring app,  such as cacti to
make sure your carrier is actually doing your qos correctly.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dennis
Heim<br>
Network Voice Engineer<br>
CDW&nbsp; Advanced Technology Services<br>
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>
Carmel, IN&nbsp; 46032<br>
<br>
317.569.4255 Office<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>317.569.4201 Fax<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>317.694.6070 Cell<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.berbee.com/" title="http://www.berbee.com/">www.berbee.com</a></span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> STEVEN CASPER
[mailto:SCASPER@mtb.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 2:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dennis Heim; Tanner Ezell; Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [cisco-voip] Location Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Yeah, we are rolling out 256k Gold Car running g729 to a
bunch of WAN locations. Just trying to get&nbsp; it right the first time. I
figure being conservative I can get about 9 calls so if I set my locations to
192K 8 calls - I should be good to go.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Steve<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Dennis Heim &lt;Dennis.Heim@cdw.com&gt; 10/9/2009 2:41 PM
&gt;&gt;&gt;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>CallManager Locations based CAC and Network QoS are like 2 ships
passing in the night. They know nothing about each other, but your end users
will let you know if they don’t match.. </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dennis
Heim<br>
Network Voice Engineer<br>
CDW&nbsp; Advanced Technology Services<br>
11711 N. Meridian Street, Suite 225<br>
Carmel, IN&nbsp; 46032<br>
<br>
317.569.4255 Office<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>317.569.4201 Fax<br>
</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>317.694.6070 Cell<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="mailto:dennis.heim@cdw.com" title="mailto:dennis.heim@berbee.com">dennis.heim@cdw.com</a><br>
<a href="http://www.berbee.com/" title="http://www.berbee.com/">www.berbee.com</a></span><span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 2:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> STEVEN CASPER; Tanner Ezell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Location Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is calculated as 24 per call for locations.&nbsp; 240 in a
locations should get you 10 calls.&nbsp; It does not calculate header
compression ratios or anything like that, just simple math.&nbsp; Same as
gatekeepers.&nbsp; You can watch the locations numbers in the RTM.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>STEVEN CASPER<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 09, 2009 1:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tanner Ezell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Location Question<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>You are way off base on your reply,&nbsp; since my question
references the help screen here is a snippet from the help screen:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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   <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
       auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'>G.729 call uses 24 kbps. <o:p></o:p></li>
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       auto;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo3'><a name=wp1051147></a>Wideband call uses
       272 kbps. <o:p></o:p></li>
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  <p><a name=1051148></a><strong>Note : </strong>Each call comprises two call
  streams. To improve audio quality, lower the bandwidth setting, so fewer
  active calls are allowed on the link to this location. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Now of course 240 divided by 24 = 10. I am curious about the
&quot;Each call comprises two call streams&quot;. So is it 240 dived by 24 or
240 divided by 48. I would assume by 24 but why the comment about the two call
streams then?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Tanner Ezell &lt;tanner.ezell@gmail.com&gt; 10/9/2009 12:52 PM
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
Funny, I remember seeing this question on a Cisco exam.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Two things,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>1) It's a bad idea to ask questions off an exam here<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>2) If you don't know that a G.729 call consumes about 24kbps
in bandwidth, you should try harder.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Cheers.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:32 PM, STEVEN CASPER &lt;<a
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>This
is a simple question I think but I want to make sure I understand what I am
reading under the Location Configuration Settings Help Screen:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I
have a location with 240kb of bandwidth designated - how may g729 calls will
this support?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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Regards,<br>
Tanner Ezell<o:p></o:p></p>

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