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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Is the dial in conferencing
comparable to having meeting place in house on premise? <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Slaga (US)<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 20, 2009 7:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Daniel Martin; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Microsoft OCS versus CUCM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We have both Cisco and Microsoft
deployed both internally and for many of our customers.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The client is the biggest
difference between the two. When we pilot both CUPC and MOC, it is close
to 9 out of 10 want MOC over CUPC. No disrespect for CUPC, but it is a
version 2 product whereas Microsoft is on version 13. It just has more of
the bells and whistles that end users are looking for and much deeper
integration into office and sharepoint. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>As far as voice, most of our
customers prefer to keep UCM as the call control engine so they can utilize QoS
and CAC for only one vendor in the network (makes sense!). They will use
RCC or CUCIMOC to achieve this and keep the MOC client.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>For some highly mobile users, we
have found Microsoft Enterprise Voice works well. Most of these are
remote users connecting over the internet so CAC and QoS is limited anyways.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I think the key piece for
Microsoft that will entice more and more buyers is the dial-in conferencing.
Having this as part of the OCS system was a very strong move from
Microsoft. I’ve got a list of customers that want to turn this on just so
they can drop their current third party vendors and do it all in-house.
Makes a strong ROI, especially for customers that have already purchased ECALs
for OCS. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>If you want more info, unicast
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Matt<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Daniel Martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 19, 2009 10:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Microsoft OCS versus CUCM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>We are doing a pilot program with Microsoft to test the OCS
Collaboration tool along with the audio codec. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Is anybody using both OCS and CUCM for audio?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>What are the benefits of both solution or lack of which
would help me justify one solution rather than the other?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Any documents/review available on the Web to review both
product’s latest version?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Daniel.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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