<html><head><base href="x-msg://819/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Those are the two that we've found all of the phones to have installed. You'd have to ask the phone manufacturers why only those two seem to be included everywhere.<div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On Oct 26, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Matt Slaga (US) wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Out of curiosity, any particular reason why only those two certificate authorities were chosen?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ryan Ratliff<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, October 26, 2009 10:32 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dane Newman<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>CiscosupportUpuck; Craig Staffin<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [cisco-voip] CUMA and ASA as Proxy<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The outside certificate the ASA presents to the mobile phones has to be one of those specified in the documentation (GeoTrust and Verisign). This is because the phones only come loaded with the root certificates for those two CAs, and TAC does not support the loading of 3rd party root certificates on your phones. <o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">That said, if you want to load the GoDaddy root certificate on every phone that's going to talk to your ASA/CUMA then go for it, just don't call TAC if it isn't working (the certificate part anyway).<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Oct 25, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Dane Newman wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>Will the ASA be ok with any trusted ssl cert such as one from godaddy thats 30 bucks a year opposed to the cheapest gotrust one thats $250 a year?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Ryan Ratliff <<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">rratliff@cisco.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">For lab purposes you *should* be able to get it to work. It's not TAC supported but that really doesn't matter for a demo. I also believe Verisign has temp cert you can get for free (but it has an expiration date).<br><br>Regarding the name, it needs to match whatever you populate in the external DNS, which should resolve to the ASA.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>"Obtain the IP address and fully qualified domain name for the Proxy Host"<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">The proxy host is your ASA.<br><span style="color: rgb(136, 136, 136); "><br>-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br>On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Voice Noob wrote:<br><br>I have a procedure on how to make the self signed certs work on my phone.<br>That is the least of my problems or concerns. If it does not work that's<br>fine but I have to try. We are only looking at a pilot of about two phones.<br>If we do a customer deployment we will have them get a correct cert.<br><br>In the below step do I create the cert using the name of my Cisco ASA or of<br>the name of my CUMA server?<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuma/7_0/english/" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cuma/7_0/english/</a>install/guide<br>/cuma_70_IAG_02_ASA.html<br><br>For New Installations) How to Obtain and Import the Cisco Adaptive Security<br>Appliance-to-Client Certificate<br>This procedure is required unless you are upgrading from Release 3.1.2 and<br>reusing your signed certificate from your Proxy Server.<br><br>This procedure has several subprocedures:<br><br>.Generate a Certificate Signing Request<br><br>.Submit the Certificate Signing Request to the Certificate Authority<br><br>.Upload the Signed Certificate to the Cisco Adaptive Security Appliance<br><br>Generate a Certificate Signing Request<br>Before You Begin<br><br>.Obtain the IP address and fully qualified domain name for the Proxy Host<br>Name as specified in Obtaining IP Addresses and DNS Names from IT, page 1-3.<br><br><br>.Determine required values for your company or organization name,<br>organizational unit, country, and state or province. See the table in<br>Creating Security Contexts, page 9-7. You must enter identical values in the<br>Cisco Adaptive Security Appliance and in the relevant security context in<br>Cisco Unified Mobility Advantage.<br><br>Procedure<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>----<br><br>Step 1 Enter configuration mode:<br><br>conf t<br><br>Step 2 Generate a key pair for this certificate:<br><br>crypto key generate rsa label <keypair-cuma-signed> modulus 1024<br><br>You will see a "Please wait..." message; look carefully for the prompt to<br>reappear.<br><br>Step 3 Create a trustpoint with the necessary information to generate the<br>certificate request:<br><br>crypto ca trustpoint <trustpoint-cuma-signed><br><br>subject-name CN=<Proxy Host Name of the Cisco Unified Mobility Advantage<br>server. Use the Fully Qualified Domain Name.>,OU=<organization unit<br>name>,O=<company or organization name as publicly registered>,C=<2 letter<br>country code>,St=<state>,L=<city><br><br>(For requirements for the Company, organization unit, Country, and State<br>values, see the values you determined in the prerequisite for this<br>procedure.)<br><br>keypair <keypair-cuma-signed><br><br>fqdn <Proxy Host Name of the Cisco Unified Mobility Advantage server. This<br>value must exactly match the value you entered for CN above.><br><br>enrollment terminal<br><br>Step 4 Get the certificate signing request to send to the Certificate<br>Authority:<br><br>crypto ca enroll <trustpoint-cuma-signed><br><br>% Start certificate enrollment.<br><br>% The subject name in the certificate will be:CN=<Proxy Host Name of the<br>Cisco Unified Mobility Advantage server>,OU=<organization unit<br>name>,O=<organization name>,C=<2 letter country code>,St=<state>,L=<city><br><br>% The fully-qualified domain name in the certificate will be: <Proxy Host<br>Name of the Cisco Unified Mobility Advantage server><br><br>% Include the device serial number in the subject name? [yes/no]: no<br><br>% Display Certificate Request to terminal? [yes/no]: yes<br><br>Step 5 Copy the entire text of the displayed Certificate Signing Request and<br>paste it into a text file.<br><br>Include the following lines. Make sure that there are no extra spaces at the<br>end.<br><br>----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----<br><br>----END CERTIFICATE----<br><br>Step 6 Save the text file.<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>----<br><br>What To Do Next<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Craig Staffin [mailto:<a href="mailto:cmstaffin@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cmstaffin@gmail.com</a>]<br>Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:46 PM<br>To: Voice Noob<br>Cc: CiscosupportUpuck<br>Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] CUMA and ASA as Proxy<br><br>I am going through this battle right now<br><br>As far as self signed certs the response from the BU was that they are<br>completely not supported as mobile phones do not do certs "well". In<br>other words if you can manage to get the CA of your domain onto your<br>phone it might work for a week or two but then it might fail. The BU<br>states that you need to use a verisign cert or GEOTrust.<br><br>Let me know if you need more help.<br>On Jul 1, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Voice Noob wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Has anyone deployed CUMA 7.x using the ASA as the Proxy server? I am<br>having a problem with the documentation on exactly how I setup the<br>ASA and the certificate requests. I don't know if the name I should<br>put into the requests is the CUMA server name or the hostname of my<br>ASA.<br><br>Also has anyone done this using slef signed certs with an internal<br>CA? I don't think I can get this company to pay for a cert from<br>Verisign or Geotrust. In fact I know I can't.<br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>_______________________________________________<br>cisco-voip mailing list<br><a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br><a href="https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-voip</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><hr size="1"><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p><strong>Disclaimer: This e-mail communication and any attachments may contain confidential and privileged information and is for use by the designated addressee(s) named above only. 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