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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Think I&#8217;ll try the packet sniffing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have both my switches configured with SPAN ports for other
uses so I&#8217;ll patch in to there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;ll let you know what I see.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#4A4A4A'>Martin Bufton BSc (Hons), CCNA - </span></b><span
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Engineer</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2009 16:29<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Bufton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Second Node in Cluster[Scanned]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>There's a good possibility of that being the case to be
honest. &nbsp;The same certificate exchange that happens during install has to
happen when the servers boot up and if it's breaking during install it'll likely
break then too.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>You can try getting a packet capture at both servers during
the install to see what is going on with the UDP 8500 traffic.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Martin Bufton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have set the Firewalls to allow all traffic to pass between
the Callmanagers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have thought about connecting the SUB to the same switch but
on a separate VLAN, means I won&#8217;t have to change the IP addresses, also nothing
is interfering.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My PUB is 172.16.74.10</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My Sub is 172.16.10.10</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My worry is if it does work, when connected to the same switch,
and then I try connecting back to where it should be located what if it then
doesn&#8217;t work</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#4A4A4A'>Martin Bufton BSc (Hons), CCNA -<span
class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span></span></b><span style='font-size:
8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4A4A4A'>Systems Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Ryan
Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]<span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>03 November 2009
15:58<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Martin Bufton<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span><a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>Re: [cisco-voip]
Second Node in Cluster[Scanned]</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>The error you are getting is clustermanager on the new sub
trying to communicate with the same service on the publisher. &nbsp;This is
necessary so that the publisher will open up the iptables firewall to allow the
sub to communicate for the installation. &nbsp;This is done via UDP port 8500
and the certificate exchange is typically large packets that will get
fragmented/segmented.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>If you move the server so it's not over the VPN from the pub
will the install proceed? &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Are you blocking any traffic over the vpn?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Martin Bufton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;m
tryin to add a second Node to my CCM 7 environment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
have added the second server via the web interface setting the IP address and
description.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
have even restarted the 1<sup>st</sup><span class=apple-converted-space>&nbsp;</span>server</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>When
I try and add the second server I get the following error</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&#8220;could
not contact server using UDP 8500&#8221;</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Or
words to similar effect.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My
MTU is set to 1400 on bother servers, so should be allowed across my VPN, I can
ping ok and also got past the stage of confirming security password so
connectivity should be good.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Other
forums suggested a possible DNS issue so I have removed all reference to DNS on
both server.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>and
still it&#8217;s not working.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Can
anyone point me in the best direction to continue troubleshooting?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks
in advance</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Martin</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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