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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Is it a bug or by-design since it&#8217;s in the release notes?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Nate VanMaren<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kin Wai; 'Ryan Ratliff'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to
firmware bug<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'><img width=1 height=2 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.png@01CA5C72.8DDF76E0"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">For all SCCP firmware
upgrades from firmware release versions earlier than 8.3(3) to version 8.5(3)
or greater, you must first upgrade your firmware to version 8.5(2). Once you
have upgraded to version 8.5(2), you can upgrade your IP Phone to version
8.5(3) or later. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/note.gif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name=wp141454></a><b><span style='color:black'>Note </span></b><span
style='color:black'><img width=1 height=2 id="Picture_x0020_5"
src="cid:image001.png@01CA5C72.8DDF76E0"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">This section applies to
the Cisco Unified IP Phone 7971G-GE, 7970G, 7961G-GE, 7961G, 7941G-GE, 7941G,
7911G, and 7906G. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name=wp141320></a><span style='color:black'>The following upgrade issues apply:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name=wp57604></a><span style='color:black'>&#8226;<img width=19 height=2
id="Picture_x0020_7" src="cid:image003.png@01CA5C72.8DDF76E0"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">If you are currently
running firmware earlier than 6.0(2) on a Cisco&nbsp;Unified&nbsp;IP&nbsp;Phone
and want to upgrade to 8.x(x), you must first install an intervening 7.0(x)
load to prevent upgrade failure. Cisco recommends using the most recent 7.0(3)
load as the intervening load to avoid lengthy upgrade times. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name=wp57605></a><span style='color:black'>&#8226;<img width=19 height=2
id="Picture_x0020_8" src="cid:image003.png@01CA5C72.8DDF76E0"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">If you are currently
running firmware 6.0(2) to 7.0(2) on a Cisco&nbsp;Unified&nbsp;IP&nbsp;Phone
and want to upgrade to 8.x(x), you can do so directly. However, expect the
upgrade to take twice as long as usual. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><a name=wp131043></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>So I guess 6.0(2) should upgrade, but I&#8217;d probably step it to a
7.0(3) load since your having trouble.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Nate<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Kin Wai<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Ryan Ratliff'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to
firmware bug<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It&#8217;s running on 6.0.2 now, I&#8217;m trying to upgrade to 8-5-2. By
the way, it&#8217;s a 7970. According to bug toolkit, there&#8217;s some documented bug
which mention it happens &#8216;occasionally&#8217; but for me the hit rate is 100%. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>With a factory default (I tried the way using 1234567890*#) ,
it&#8217;s not working. As mentioned, after it boots up, it connects to the new
callmanager successfully without upgrading to the latest firmware specify
inside default.loads. When I look at the firmware field on the phone, it shows
term70.default.loads. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have yet to try&nbsp; the (3491672850*#) method so far. Seems
like I&#8217;m facing multiple issues here. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As customer is moving from 4.0 to 7.1, with the old
firmware(after the factory default) I guess I will lose some features?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ryan Ratliff
[mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kin Wai<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to firmware
bug<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Is your phone running 6.0.2 now or trying to upgrade to that
load and failing? &nbsp;If it is running 6.0.2 now what version is it trying to
upgrade to (specified ind device defaults)?<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>When you do a factory reset the phone will look for the
term7.default file on the TFTP server it gets from DHCP and then upgrade its
load to that specified in the defaults file. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Kin Wai wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi
Folks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I&#8217;m
having trouble with this firmware load &#8220;TERM70.6-0-2-0S&#8221;. In the current environment,
it&#8217;s DHCP based. I manually disabled DHCP and point the TFTP server to another
TFTP server (new callmanager with latest firmware)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>It
seems like the phone is stuck with a reboot loop with &#8220;verifying firmware&#8221;
showing on the screen. It didn&#8217;t download the latest firmware at all.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The
only workaround I can find so far is to either do factory default else if
factory reset. So far I tried 4 of them, none of them manage to retrieve the
firmware successfully by itself without any user inference.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Something
interesting is occasionally when I do a factory default on the phone (the step
with 1234567890*#) , it will connect to the new callmanager without upgrading
to the latest firmware, instead it boots up and connect using term7.default(the
default firmware load). Is this normal?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>In
a successful example, after the factory default command, it will download the
latest default firmware load, follows by the latest firmware load.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anyone
face &nbsp;similar problem before? Having to factory reset/default is really
not something I want to happen during the migration day or before the migration
day during late evenings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kin
Wai<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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