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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It must still be an MTU thing somewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have packet sniffed both networks and can see UDP 8500 being
sent and being received, to the network, and they appear to be being
fragmented. Although the DF flag isn’t set so I can’t see an issue.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Any way I set the MTU on both CCM7 servers to 1300, and packets
are still being fragmented.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have even set to 1000 and still they get fragmented.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Looking at Wireshark it looks like the packets are 1700 bytes in
size. But why when I have set the MTU to 1000??<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have just done some pings with the don’t fragment flag
and:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ping to my Domain controller are successful at a size of 1198<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pings to my Call Manager server on same subnet as DC, are lower
at 976 but that is because the MTU on the servers is set to 1000<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#4A4A4A'>I know this is looking like a network issue but I need help.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#4A4A4A'>Martin Bufton BSc (Hons), CCNA - </span></b><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4A4A4A'>Systems
Engineer</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Martin Bufton
[mailto:m.bufton@spectra-group.co.uk] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2009 16:30<br>
<b>To:</b> Ryan Ratliff<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Second Node in Cluster[Scanned]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Think I’ll try the packet sniffing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have both my switches configured with SPAN ports for other
uses so I’ll patch in to there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’ll let you know what I see.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#4A4A4A'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#4A4A4A'>Martin Bufton BSc (Hons), CCNA - </span></b><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4A4A4A'>Systems
Engineer</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ryan Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2009 16:29<br>
<b>To:</b> Martin Bufton<br>
<b>Cc:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Second Node in Cluster[Scanned]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>There's a good possibility of that being the case to be
honest. The same certificate exchange that happens during install has to
happen when the servers boot up and if it's breaking during install it'll
likely break then too.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>You can try getting a packet capture at both servers during
the install to see what is going on with the UDP 8500 traffic.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>-Ryan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:04 AM, Martin Bufton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span class=apple-style-span><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have set the Firewalls to allow all traffic to pass between
the Callmanagers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have thought about connecting the SUB to the same switch but
on a separate VLAN, means I won’t have to change the IP addresses, also
nothing is interfering.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My PUB is 172.16.74.10</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My Sub is 172.16.10.10</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My worry is if it does work, when connected to the same switch, and
then I try connecting back to where it should be located what if it then
doesn’t work</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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color:#4A4A4A'> </span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#4A4A4A'>Martin Bufton BSc (Hons), CCNA -<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b><span style='font-size:
8.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#4A4A4A'>Systems Engineer</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Ryan
Ratliff [mailto:rratliff@cisco.com]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>03 November 2009
15:58<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Martin Bufton<br>
<b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a
href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [cisco-voip]
Second Node in Cluster[Scanned]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>The error you are getting is clustermanager on the new sub
trying to communicate with the same service on the publisher. This is
necessary so that the publisher will open up the iptables firewall to allow the
sub to communicate for the installation. This is done via UDP port 8500
and the certificate exchange is typically large packets that will get
fragmented/segmented.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>If you move the server so it's not over the VPN from the pub
will the install proceed? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Are you blocking any traffic over the vpn?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Martin Bufton wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I’m
tryin to add a second Node to my CCM 7 environment.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
have added the second server via the web interface setting the IP address and
description.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
have even restarted the 1<sup>st</sup><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>server</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>When
I try and add the second server I get the following error</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>“could
not contact server using UDP 8500”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Or
words to similar effect.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My
MTU is set to 1400 on bother servers, so should be allowed across my VPN, I can
ping ok and also got past the stage of confirming security password so
connectivity should be good.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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forums suggested a possible DNS issue so I have removed all reference to DNS on
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>and
still it’s not working.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Can
anyone point me in the best direction to continue troubleshooting?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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