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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Luckily it didn’t brick itself just like firewalls. =)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>However, according to the release notes, it looks fine. The
problem I have I guess is more towards the “verifying firmware” part where it
didn’t attempt to download the new firmware at all despite the amount of reboot
done itself. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In the meanwhile, I will try to upgrade to 7.x tomorrow or the
day after when I’m onsite again.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Scott Voll
[mailto:svoll.voip@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jason Aarons (US)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Nate VanMaren; Kin Wai; Ryan Ratliff; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to
firmware bug<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>it's just like all of the other Cisco hardware.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Firewalls were the same going from 6.x to 8.x. had to
first go through 7.x.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I'm guessing it's working by
design ;-(<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Jason Aarons (US) <<a
href="mailto:jason.aarons@us.didata.com">jason.aarons@us.didata.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Is it a bug or by-design since it’s in
the release notes?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nate VanMaren<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kin Wai; 'Ryan Ratliff'</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to
firmware bug<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'><img border=0 width=1 height=2 id="_x0000_i1025"
src="cid:image001.png@01CA5CE4.12116830"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">For all SCCP firmware
upgrades from firmware release versions earlier than 8.3(3) to version 8.5(3)
or greater, you must first upgrade your firmware to version 8.5(2). Once you
have upgraded to version 8.5(2), you can upgrade your IP Phone to version
8.5(3) or later. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:black'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='color:black'><img border=0 width=28 height=25 id="_x0000_i1027"
src="cid:image002.gif@01CA5CE4.12116830"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/note.gif"></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='color:black'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="124bab76bc1e2aaa_wp141454"></a><b><span style='color:black'>Note </span></b><span
style='color:black'><img border=0 width=1 height=2 id="_x0000_i1029"
src="cid:image001.png@01CA5CE4.12116830"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">This section applies to
the Cisco Unified IP Phone 7971G-GE, 7970G, 7961G-GE, 7961G, 7941G-GE, 7941G,
7911G, and 7906G. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span
style='color:black'>
<hr size=2 width="100%" align=center>
</span></div>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="124bab76bc1e2aaa_wp141320"></a><span style='color:black'>The following
upgrade issues apply: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="124bab76bc1e2aaa_wp57604"></a><span style='color:black'>•<img border=0
width=19 height=2 id="_x0000_i1031" src="cid:image003.png@01CA5CE4.12116830"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">If you are currently
running firmware earlier than 6.0(2) on a Cisco Unified IP Phone
and want to upgrade to 8.x(x), you must first install an intervening 7.0(x)
load to prevent upgrade failure. Cisco recommends using the most recent 7.0(3)
load as the intervening load to avoid lengthy upgrade times. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="124bab76bc1e2aaa_wp57605"></a><span style='color:black'>•<img border=0
width=19 height=2 id="_x0000_i1032" src="cid:image003.png@01CA5CE4.12116830"
alt="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/i/templates/blank.gif">If you are currently
running firmware 6.0(2) to 7.0(2) on a Cisco Unified IP Phone
and want to upgrade to 8.x(x), you can do so directly. However, expect the
upgrade to take twice as long as usual. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a
name="124bab76bc1e2aaa_wp131043"></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>So I guess 6.0(2) should upgrade, but
I’d probably step it to a 7.0(3) load since your having trouble.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>-Nate</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kin Wai<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Ryan Ratliff'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to
firmware bug</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>It’s running on 6.0.2 now, I’m trying to
upgrade to 8-5-2. By the way, it’s a 7970. According to bug toolkit, there’s
some documented bug which mention it happens ‘occasionally’ but for me the hit
rate is 100%. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>With a factory default (I tried the way
using 1234567890*#) , it’s not working. As mentioned, after it boots up, it
connects to the new callmanager successfully without upgrading to the latest
firmware specify inside default.loads. When I look at the firmware field on the
phone, it shows term70.default.loads. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I have yet to try the
(3491672850*#) method so far. Seems like I’m facing multiple issues here. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>As customer is moving from 4.0 to 7.1,
with the old firmware(after the factory default) I guess I will lose some
features?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> Ryan
Ratliff [mailto:<a href="mailto:rratliff@cisco.com" target="_blank">rratliff@cisco.com</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 03, 2009 11:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Kin Wai<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net" target="_blank">cisco-voip@puck.nether.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Trouble with upgrading firmware due to
firmware bug</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Is
your phone running 6.0.2 now or trying to upgrade to that load and failing?
If it is running 6.0.2 now what version is it trying to upgrade to
(specified ind device defaults)?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When
you do a factory reset the phone will look for the term7.default file on the
TFTP server it gets from DHCP and then upgrade its load to that specified in
the defaults file. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;color:black'>-Ryan</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On
Nov 3, 2009, at 9:28 AM, Kin Wai wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span
style='font-size:13.5pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Hi Folks,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>I’m having trouble with this firmware load
“TERM70.6-0-2-0S”. In the current environment, it’s DHCP based. I manually
disabled DHCP and point the TFTP server to another TFTP server (new callmanager
with latest firmware)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>It seems like the phone is stuck with a reboot loop
with “verifying firmware” showing on the screen. It didn’t download the latest
firmware at all.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>The only workaround I can find so far is to either do
factory default else if factory reset. So far I tried 4 of them, none of them
manage to retrieve the firmware successfully by itself without any user
inference.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Something interesting is occasionally when I do a
factory default on the phone (the step with 1234567890*#) , it will connect to
the new callmanager without upgrading to the latest firmware, instead it boots
up and connect using term7.default(the default firmware load). Is this normal?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>In a successful example, after the factory default
command, it will download the latest default firmware load, follows by the
latest firmware load.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Anyone face similar problem before? Having to
factory reset/default is really not something I want to happen during the
migration day or before the migration day during late evenings.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Kin Wai</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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