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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=Section1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>We have the same thing but we have used VG224’s for all our firepannels, with no issues<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Fuermann, Jason<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:14 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'JASON BURWELL'; Tim Reimers; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When we checked there was an exception if you owned the entire cable plant that you didn’t have to use the Telco<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>JASON BURWELL<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Tim Reimers; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>You may want to check up on NFPA72 Fire Alarm Code, I don't recall the section. Unless it has recently changed, I am almost certain at least the primary line has to be a dedicated POTS line direct from the Telco. I know the secondary line can be shared if used in conjunction with an RJ31X but do not recall if there are any PBX restrictions on it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Jason</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-voip-bounces@puck.nether.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Reimers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [cisco-voip] Cisco VOIP and fire alarm phone lines</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Does anyone know if Cisco has any recommendations they officially make on supporting analog telephony devices like fire alarm panels?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>We use ATAs for supplying dialtone to fire alarm dialers, and we're getting issues with some panels getting "comm trouble" issues, and data not getting to the monitoring company correctly.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The security vendors and the OEM manufacturers are saying "we don't recommend VOIP for alarm lines"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Our management is saying that surely Cisco supports this, and with the correct configuration, they can make this happen.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'm looking for some official Cisco guidance (links to design guide statements, etc) </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>that might break the deadlock, and either allow me to prove to the vendors and OEMs that VOIP is indeed a stable technology</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>or, allow Cisco the graceful way of saying "it's best not to do that"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Anyone got anything to offer?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I'd imagine that there's a fair number of folks who've just decided not to use VOIP for this purpose- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>That's just not the decision here though..and I'm not the policymaker on that level.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>